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MotoGP - Yamaha to switch to a V4 for 2025

4.8K views 32 replies 18 participants last post by  Harvey  
#1 ·
Rumor has it that Yamaha is going to switch to a V4 in 2025 despite the development freeze thats being proposed for 2025 and 2026 in preparation for the 850cc era.

This could be one of the reasons why Quatarraro signed for Yamaha for the next 2 years ( well, that and the 12M Euro contract )

Hopefully the 850 V4s will make it into production road bikes, they could form the basis of a great track bike.
 
#2 ·
That's an interesting development. It would be cool to see a V4 make it's way into a Japanese production sport bike. In terms of it helping their effort in MotoGP though, I don't think it would. I think it's more than just the engine with those guys. Look at Honda with their V4.
 
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#6 ·
The VFR and RFV were released almost 30 - 40 years ago. There hasn't been a production Japanese V4 sport bike available to the general public since, unless we count the RC213VS. I don't think anyone would wet their pants more than the CBR cadre if Honda released a true production V4. The Yamy boys would be just as ecstatic if something like that came out of Yamaha. Hell, I wouldn't mind seeing something like that myself.
 
#7 ·
Reminder that motogp is prototype racing, they can not sell what is current. There was a motogp bike back in the 2000's that failed tech because it shared a crankshaft with a zx10 or something like it. World superbike would be where our sport bikes would come from. Given the power levels and speed I would not be upset if they brought the motogp class back to 600cc as prototypes. Dont forget the VF500 honda, we could have some really trick/fun bikes modernized, and I should no longer be forced to clean carburetors on them... :LOL:
 
#8 ·
It seems manufacturers are pushing smaller displacement bikes.
Curious to see if they stop making 1000 cc bikes in favor of the 850 cc bikes. Either in 2V or 4V form.
Don’t see them having any issues getting HP from a 4V 850 cc bike.
Also don’t know how cost effective it would be to have both 1000 cc and a 850 cc.
Guess we ll cc. 😉😉
 
#9 ·
MotoGP bikes run pneumatic valve springs and seamless gearboxes, neither of which would work in a streetbike. And if Yamaha built a V4 race rep it would be a Japanese Panigale V4. A bit different, for sure, but where's the novelty except when purchasing spares?

Why would it be a better track bike than an R1 or R6?
 
#10 ·
Yamaha has a bit of an advantage next year. Their concessions will allow them to continue to develop their engine in spite of the development freeze. The 2027 move to 850cc is a reduction in stroke with the same bore size...so Yamaha could have all of next season to continue to develop and "test" their 2027 configuration if they move to a v4.
 
#14 ·
I'd doubt it. They may be working on an 850 V4 for 2027. It would be pretty stupid to work on a whole new power plant just for 2 seasons. Also it's not as if having a V4 is a key to success. The Hondas are much worse than the Yamahas
 
#16 ·
Not stupid at all IMO. The stroke will be the same, so most of the engine dimensions will be unchanged. The means much of the work done on developing a chassis and aero/cooling around the engine will carry over. Moving from a V4 to a slightly narrower V4 is a much smaller step than going from an I4 to a V4.
 
#20 ·
And there you have it boys and girls. Not necessarily on the grid next year, but they will be testing it on track.

 
#24 ·
Yup...

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#26 ·
I know it was left wanting in comparisons to the RG and NS but I loved mine. With a damper to address the headshake I found it great handling and it actually had a bottom end and strong midrange grunt and lotsa fun when it came on pipe. Also the comfiest sport bike I've had, no problem with 1000km days. Would've been a great sport tourer except for the need to carry 2stroke oil.
 
#30 ·
I knew a guy who owned a vfr750, he used to rave about it but then out riding with his girlfriend one day he was flat out at 240km/h she went past him on a cbr 600 :) He sold the vfr shortly after that and got a 600 :)
 
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