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Desmosedici RR

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#1 ·
Anyone have a crystal ball regarding the future value and/or collectability of these? :p
 
#3 ·
No idea on future values but as good anyone tells you that it is, it’s even better. I used to think it was all hype but I finally rode one and discovered how wrong I was.

If you can find and read the manuscript of the unpublished book of its development and production, it will blow your mind.

Fwiw, it’s the only non-RS Ducati that I own two of, if that tells you anything about how good it is.
 
#5 ·
Assuming you're looking to sell one - What a buyer says
A single year model, they only managed to sell 1500 of? 16" rear wheel you can't buy anything but Goldwing tires for? A 6000 mile valve clearance service interval requiring the engine to be pulled and 40 hours of book labor? Only maybe a dozen shops in the country with the proper tools and techs with the proper certification to work on them? Fairly common expensive crank and valve spring and other problems, no longer befing covered under warranty? No passenger accommodations?. A V4R is cheaper and faster and cheaper to maintain. Desmosedicis are going to plummet in value. I'll do you a favor and give you what a V4R goes for.
Assuming you're looking to buy one - What a seller says
Limited edition GP Replica of Casey Stoner's 2007 MotoGP championship (1st and only DUcati MotoGP championship to date) winning bike. Single year engine, frame, body, model. Liberally infused with carbon fiber, magnesium, aluminum and titanium. The first ever V4 Ducati motor. So exotic only maybe a dozen shops in the U.S. are qualified and outfitted to service it. Anything under original MSRP ($72,500) is a deal.
On a more serious note, if Bring A Trailer and Iconic Mototbike Auctions past sales are any indicator, prices for these seem to have bottomed in late 2019, early 2020 and have increased significantly from there (low to mid 40s to mid to high 50s now). Their collectibility is likely ascendant as they are an unique and significant bike in Ducati's history. Also MSRP for more recent Ducati special editions built off regular production platforms (ie.1299 Superleggera and V4 Superleggera) are significantly higher than the MSRP for the D16RR and although produced in smaller quantities these regular production based bikes are probably less collectible over the long run. Inflation in the price of Ducati's most exotic bikes will continue to drag D16RR prices upwards.
 
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Assuming you're looking to sell one - What a buyer says

Assuming you're looking to buy one - What a seller says

On a more serious note, if Bring A Trailer and Iconic Mototbike Auctions past sales are any indicator, prices for these seem to have bottomed in late 2019, early 2020 and have increased significantly from there (low to mid 40s to mid to high 50s now). Their collectibility is likely ascendant as they are an unique and significant bike in Ducati's history. Also MSRP for more recent Ducati special editions built off regular production platforms (ie.1299 Superleggera and V4 Superleggera) are significantly higher than the MSRP for the D16RR and although produced in smaller quantities these regular production based bikes are probably less collectible over the long run. Inflation in the price of Ducati's most exotic bikes will continue to drag D16RR prices upwards.
The "seller" is incorrect....

The Ducati Apollo was the first ever V4...... (Even if it is in an L in the frame ;) )
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The DesmoSedici is truly exotic in every sense of the word, not sure the QLD bike is worth what he's asking for it but if he/she gets it then good on them! I'd hate to have to pay for the upkeep, and the oddball tyres....
I had the chance to buy Troy Bayliss' #12/1500 "gift" from the factory.... should have it was a paltry $115k back then, oh well.
Nice ornament though....
 
#7 ·
I remember the first time I saw one. I asked the owner if he could start it up so I could hear it. Luckily for the owner a few guys gathered around the bike, because when he pushed the starter button the bike jumped forward. Apparently they will start when left in gear. That seemed like a design flaw to me, but I guess a safety feature to prevent this would've added weight to the bike (I can't think of any other reason).
We ended up going for a ride together, and what stands out most for me was the pure mechanical sound of it.

Here's a pure virgin one if you have lots of $$$.

 
#12 ·
Me too.
 
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#13 ·
The first 600 had problems so if you are looking at one of those ask about recall work. I was told that it was found easier to drop the engine out for servicing. Also somewhere on this site is a statement by a Brit that said none of the ones that he had on the dyno ever came near the factory figure. Surely a nice 1299 Superleggera would be better. Cheers
ian
 
#20 ·
The first 600 had problems so if you are looking at one of those ask about recall work. I was told that it was found easier to drop the engine out for servicing. Also somewhere on this site is a statement by a Brit that said none of the ones that he had on the dyno ever came near the factory figure. Surely a nice 1299 Superleggera would be better. Cheers
ian
Just for what it's worth, each of mine do about 180hp at the rear wheel which would be correct (maybe even a little better) for what they're supposed to have at the crank.

Also, some of the earlier bikes did have issues and there are a series of recalls but I haven't found it to be "the first 600 had problems" across the board. While there are indeed some terrifying issues with some of the earlier bikes, this goes back to what I said about a lot of the internet misinformation that gets spread around as fact.
 
#14 ·
Many years ago the Ducati group in Sacramento rented Thunderhill race track for a day. One of the fellows in the group had a D16RR that he brought out to the track. I think it had the fancy exhaust system. We told him to go out on the track and we all just stayed along the front straight off our bikes and just listened to the symphony of sound emerging from those tail pipes as he took a lap. So much more complex than all the other twins at the track that day. It really was impressive.
 
#15 ·
$358,888.

We paid less that that for a house in 2010. In the San Fernando Valley of Los Angeles, not some low rent place.
OK, they are a lot more now, but that is still a crazy price for any motorcycle.
Otoh, if someone pays it, I guess it is worth it to them. :censored: