Off ya go to Oil and Lubrication.

A search of this forum would keep you busy for hours.

 

Let him have his fun, Chuck. At some point in our pilgrimage through the world of Ducati.ms all of us end up in the 'which oil is the...' Swamp. I know I enjoyed my time there!!!

 

That's why I towed it here from the Hyper section: So many threads and opinions on oil it deserved it's own section.
You didn't see it before it got moved, did you? I'm on this shit...

 

You didn't see it before it got moved, did you? I'm on this shit...

Yes, Sir. You are indeed!!!

 

Ok, someone's gotta answer the op's question.

300v isn't new. It's been around for sometime now. Yes, I use the 15w50 in my white bikes and 10w40 in my red bikes. It's the best damn stuff on the planet for making a gear box feel slicker than snake snot.

 

Counterpoint: In my experience it's a race only oil (that's why it's called "Competition" right on the label) and breaks down quickly, causing said snot-slick shift action to become hard booger-action. There are better choices for street motorcycles...unless you like changing expensive oil a lot.

 

Not all 300V is labeled as "competition". AFAICT, the competition labeling is for cars:

The 300V Factory Line makes no reference to competition however some lablels do have the word "racing" on them (not the one in the pic):

I've heard this 300V thinning thesis on several forums, but neither on the label or Motul's website do I see the manufacturer represent 300V factory line as unsuitable for street use. I'm not saying it isn't true, but I'm still looking for the manufacturer warning that supports the thesis.

BTW...here are some other oils that say "racing" but people use them on street bikes regularly...

 

I like changing oil almost as much as changing tires.

 

Don't pay any attention to those other jokers. They are only taking the piss because once you've been here awhile, you see the same questions again & again.
For your climate 15W50 is perfect. 10w40 would also be ok. I have used both grades in Full Synthetic for 7 years. Look for posts by Shazaam for good advice on many subjects. Look in the Hall of Wisdom section.

The search function does work, & googling questions helps too before asking a question here, that may cause you to be made fun of. Normally the guys are helpful if it's a genuine enquiry.

Craig

 

Mega polite and helpful post, Craig...'cept his question was about 300V and not what weight is appropriate, ya tosser.

So who are you and what have you done wit Craig?


OP...be afraid. Be very afraid.

 

'cept his question was about 300V and not what weight is appropriate,

OP...be afraid. Be very afraid.

Yes I realised that, but getting into a brand argument seemed silly & irrelevant, thats why I didn't go there.
Personally I use Silkolene or Penrite, I don't think Penrite is available in the US so it wasn't worth mentioning.

Craig

 

I was being serious. Weren't you Chuck?

 

I was right up to the point where i called Craig a tosser.

 

But he didn't ask about the other brands. Pfft.

 

OP, Craig is right about it being a fine question. Hope we didn't get too sideways for ya!.

 

Ok. After sifting though the many layers of BS it Apears the oil is just fine for my bike. Thanks for info, I think.


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Let that be a lesson to ya, don't ask about oil or tyres and expect a sensible answer! lol

Craig

 

coolthreads

Nothing beats a good oil question.
Nothing.

 

Nothing beats a good oil question.
Nothing.

Except a good tire question...

 

I usually change tires and oil at the same time. Every 3000 miles.

 

To the OP, use Silkolene Pro 4 instead. Not Pro 4 Plus, not Comp 4. Just Pro 4. Its an ester based oil formulated for street use. As mentioned earlier in the thread, competition oils are not meant for drain intervals typical of street bikes.

I am running the 15W50 flavor and the Multi seems to love it.

 

Isn't oil good for only 2 months before it runs out of shelf life?

I change mine when it looks old and there is a new jug waiting to be used up.

Usually well before the recommended time interval.

Gives me a good feeling to know that there is fresh oil in there.
Placebo effect to some extent.
Street use!
Race, well then that is a different story.

Motul because it has a cool jug , and I let people see the ridiculous price some charge for it.

 

I change mine when it looks old and there is a new jug waiting to be used up.

It's nice to know I'm not alone judging when it's time to open a new bottle. They don't last long on my shelf, either.

 

I've used 300V and it breaks down and loses viscosity earlier than other oils I've used, it doesn't have the required shear strength of Penrite for instance ( can see it plainly on the oil pressure gauge as the pressure drops after a 1000km or so of hard use)
Might be OK for short term race use but not for normal road bike change intervals.

 

I love it when Davy brings clarity to a crap thread.

Thanks mate & happy new year

I am happy with my choices & I don't answer to a higher God.

Craig

 

Do a search for Bob the oil guys comparisons and you'll see a test they did that confirms what my practical experience with the 300V told me.
On the other hand... just ignore it all and go ahead and use it.

 

I tried it in my 950 Supermoto once. Within 1500 miles the bike was shifting like it had old dino oil in the crankcase.

 

I've not had any issues with 300V up to about 3000 miles. At least not any more than any other oil I've tried. I agree they all degrade to the point if feeling it in the gear box about that time.

Ok, I'm anal but I swear i can feel the difference.

 

The Silkolene that I use is the same way. The shifts get grabby and rough right around 3k miles. When I start missing shifts, I know it's time for an oil change.

 

I can too, and that's usually when I change...EXCEPT with Mobil 1.
With that stuff I have to go by the odo. Makes me so angry.

 

I've only ever used 300v in my duc. I like the color, the fact it's ester, and it does slick up the gear box. Only downside I've found is it can emulsify. Maybe all oils do, I don't know. So running your bike up to temp help burns all that crud off.


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Just about as cool as it gets..... The pull out spout on the 4 litre jugs.

 

I found this in another thread.

http://www.ducati.ms/forums/138-streetfighter/451193-anyone-else-do-oil-analysis.html

Seems 3000 miles is too long an interval?

I normally change oil when neutral becomes difficult to select.

Craig