[whippersnapper]

Is there a honda option that's not overweight like the Multi has become?

probably not but the NT1100 is getting good reviews. I mean it’s pretty weird to want a full featured touring bike and then be surprised they’re heavy? Yamaha Tracer GT is probably the best sporty touring option but the looks are an acquired taste (mind you Multistradas are hardly good looking bikes).

Or go left field and choose Tuono 660 or the new Triumph 675 based sport tourer. Sometimes less power and weight is the answer.

 

[d3vi@nt]

I mean it’s pretty weird to want a full featured touring bike and then be surprised they’re heavy?

Full featured touring bike to me is the BMW K series, Goldwing, etc. in the 800+ pound range. I'm looking at the sport touring/adv touring segment with less focus on touring (but more on comfort).

The MV TV seemed to check the right boxes, but sounds like it's an utter nightmare otherwise.

 

[potomacduc]

As someone mentioned, the Tracer is a good bike. It’s a sub900cc triple, so it definitely lacks the torque stomp of a big twin, but it’s quick and fun.

As for KTM there are spy photos and rumors of two potential options: a 17” front/fat rear wheel Super Adventure as well as a heavily updated SD GT using the new chassis from the 2020 SD R.

As for the XR, a friend has a 2016 and I test rode a 2019. From an ergonomics and handling standpoint both felt very similar to my 2013 Multi. I was instantly comfortable and confident. The engine has more up top but a little less down low and it’s a buzz bomb. Another friend has an S1000R and I really don’t like the feel of the BMW in-line 4. Ifsomehow you like the engine, the XR would be a great choice.

 

[DaveK]

probably not but the NT1100 is getting good reviews. I mean it’s pretty weird to want a full featured touring bike and then be surprised they’re heavy? Yamaha Tracer GT is probably the best sporty touring option but the looks are an acquired taste (mind you Multistradas are hardly good looking bikes).

Or go left field and choose Tuono 660 or the new Triumph 675 based sport tourer. Sometimes less power and weight is the answer.

Yea these days it is but sport touring bikes USED to be lighter... not sure why manufacturers decided we all wanted them to be 600lb fatties...

I think the Tracer has gotten very good reviews overall.

 

[ducatisean93111]

One of the mechanics where I work has a Tracer 900 GT and he absolutely loves it. He's let me take it for a ride and it's nowhere near as punchy as the MTS but definitely a great bike none the less.

 

[Tectonic]

Take yourself outside and give yourself a good hard slap!. I fell for the sexy MV Turismo looks but was soon facing the reality of what is a undeveloped styling exercise based on a sports focused 800 with no thought to touring (or anything else I can think of) capability. I bought it new from my nearest MV dealer (a good 200+mile round trip) and not long into ownership did the shortcomings appear.
1st was it regularly needed a full switch off wait 10 mins for the dash to clear electric gremlins that put it into "safe mode operation" . The clutch basket cush rubbers must have been an after thought as these started chattering , it seems they have a constant update to the parts for these in efforts to solve (note constant is relative in MV parts supply terms) . The Led indicator lights, had failed LED bulbs almost every time they saw rain . The rear number plate light unit has its loom plug in the rear of the swingarm exposed to all the crap thrown off the rear wheel it corroded faster than Russian steel exposed to a salt bath which I notice when I tried to swap the oem plastic rear mudguard for a carbon unit as the plug disintegrated on its 1st disconnect since assemble (6months from new sale). Lots of random sensor errors occurred all fixed by the power off wait restart reboots. And don't even think about trying to take the (front) body work off its assembly is the work of some idiot who though hundreds of tiny bolts and intricate origami shapes was a good idea . Plus they use the don't disassemble version of Loctite on some of the front end fixing bolts so they snap when trying to undo for the 1st time. I got the normal sussie (non active) version as I thought it would be less hassle however the rear spring damper rising rate set up was all wrong & the bike handled like a drunk tea trolley on bends with any level of undulation with it wanting to wobble about the headstock as the rear wallowed and rebounded. No amount of fiddling with the inaccessible adjusters changed its behaviour. So do yourself a favour and look but don't buy.
Oh the 800 engine also has a ridiculously small oil capacity and tiny oil filter so oil change intervals are at really low miles for a road sports touring it thinks it is. Pic as evidence of my ownershit experience

LOL. Generally I take bad experiences with a grain of salt but this insight is enough for me to never consider one. I was looking at them a few years ago and the lack of a dealer network dissuaded me. I saw one for the first time a month or two back. Pretty bike.

 

[Tectonic]

One of the mechanics where I work has a Tracer 900 GT and he absolutely loves it. He's let me take it for a ride and it's nowhere near as punchy as the MTS but definitely a great bike none the less.

I recently did a demo on a Tracer 900. The motor reminded me of a sewing machine. It was a nice bike but I think it’s a step backwards if you’re coming from an MTS.

 

[DaveNZ]

Had a MV 800, hated it, hated the engine, hated the twitchy handling, suspension was crap, never ever again. Ive got 2 touring bikes, my 950S multi (2nd multi, and done over 100,000kms on them with no issues) my other touring bike (fast touring) is my 2020 1290R Superduke, its great to tour on (solo) (ps had a 1290GT previous-great bike). Nothing beats 170 rwhp when your touring I have a 56 litre top box for the 1290R now.

 

[potomacduc]

I think a lot of us have thought about buying an MV at one time or another. Some of their bikes are just gorgeous. A couple of years ago I was in love with the America and Pirelli editions. When I dug a little deeper, much of the enthusiasm waned. Still, if there had been a dealer within 100 miles, I might have rolled the dice. In the end, I’m happy to learn from other’s mistakes whenever I can. 🤓

 

[knockcrogherypaul]

Have you thought about the smaller MTS? The V2S would be near the top of your budget but I strongly recommend a test ride on it. It really is as good as they say it is.

 

[Theducman772]

My MV Brutale track bike. I love it, but it's definitely a labor of love.

 

[ducatisean93111]

I recently did a demo on a Tracer 900. The motor reminded me of a sewing machine. It was a nice bike but I think it’s a step backwards if you’re coming from an MTS.

I feel like most bikes are a step backwards from the Multi. I love this thing.

 

[d3vi@nt]

I think a lot of us have thought about buying an MV at one time or another. Some of their bikes are just gorgeous. A couple of years ago I was in love with the America and Pirelli editions. When I dug a little deeper, much of the enthusiasm waned. Still, if there had been a dealer within 100 miles, I might have rolled the dice. In the end, I’m happy to learn from other’s mistakes whenever I can. 🤓

Yeah, I tried it on (MV) a few years back and got pretty much the same feedback. I was hoping I'd hear something positive this time, but no such luck. I agree; their bikes are just gorgeous. Such a shame they can't get the rest of it up to par.

 

[potomacduc]

Add in that the price of a Brutale 800 RR is about the same as. Tuono Factory or base SFV4 and it’s puzzling that they sell any bikes.

 

[whippersnapper]

I feel like most bikes are a step backwards from the Multi. I love this thing.

You may be biased, most reviewers adore the Yamaha triple engine. The new R9 should be an outstanding sport bike

 

[ducvet]

I just had a Turismo at the shop today, nice looking bike. I have a Dragster coming in for some poor running issues and had one of the Americas in the shop a few weeks ago. Modern MV is similar to 1990's Ducati, don't buy one as your only bike. But stare at them long enough and you may want one. I resisted riding a F800 for a long time because I liked the look, after riding I understand I would need to throw away the injection and mount some keihin FCR's so I will need to keep saving for the carburetors.

 

[iamzombie]

You may be biased, most reviewers adore the Yamaha triple engine. The new R9 should be an outstanding sport bike

Has there actually been confirmation that an R9 was being made?

 

[ducatisean93111]

You may be biased, most reviewers adore the Yamaha triple engine. The new R9 should be an outstanding sport bike

Don't get me wrong, I love the Yamaha. Horses for courses though. I was close to buying a Tracer 9 myself as a second commuter bike, but haven't bit the bullet, and won't because a guy here has one.

 

[DaveK]

I've ridden an older F3 and F4... I'd not hesitate to buy either if it was my third or fourth bike... they're so damned pretty. .

 

[Corse1]

I recently swapped bikes with my mate who has the MV Brutale 1090RR in the American colors. Gorgeous bike but didn't like it at all. like riding a scalpel. Harsh as anything, point and shoot type of bike. High revving with not the torque I thought it would have. Couldn't wait to get off it.
He has to regularly service the rear hub. Something to do with it not designed for our rough pot holed roads. Also had a few electrical gremlin issues.
The plus I didn't expect was the very good engine breaking which surprised me. I liked the Brutale 800RR better. I thought about the Veloce once as second hand they are relatively cheap bikes.
Don't think I would go for an MV unless it was a track bike.