Take yourself outside and give yourself a good hard slap!. I fell for the sexy MV Turismo looks but was soon facing the reality of what is a undeveloped styling exercise based on a sports focused 800 with no thought to touring (or anything else I can think of) capability. I bought it new from my nearest MV dealer (a good 200+mile round trip) and not long into ownership did the shortcomings appear.
1st was it regularly needed a full switch off wait 10 mins for the dash to clear electric gremlins that put it into "safe mode operation" . The clutch basket cush rubbers must have been an after thought as these started chattering , it seems they have a constant update to the parts for these in efforts to solve (note constant is relative in MV parts supply terms) . The Led indicator lights, had failed LED bulbs almost every time they saw rain . The rear number plate light unit has its loom plug in the rear of the swingarm exposed to all the crap thrown off the rear wheel it corroded faster than Russian steel exposed to a salt bath which I notice when I tried to swap the oem plastic rear mudguard for a carbon unit as the plug disintegrated on its 1st disconnect since assemble (6months from new sale). Lots of random sensor errors occurred all fixed by the power off wait restart reboots. And don't even think about trying to take the (front) body work off its assembly is the work of some idiot who though hundreds of tiny bolts and intricate origami shapes was a good idea . Plus they use the don't disassemble version of Loctite on some of the front end fixing bolts so they snap when trying to undo for the 1st time. I got the normal sussie (non active) version as I thought it would be less hassle however the rear spring damper rising rate set up was all wrong & the bike handled like a drunk tea trolley on bends with any level of undulation with it wanting to wobble about the headstock as the rear wallowed and rebounded. No amount of fiddling with the inaccessible adjusters changed its behaviour. So do yourself a favour and look but don't buy.
Oh the 800 engine also has a ridiculously small oil capacity and tiny oil filter so oil change intervals are at really low miles for a road sports touring it thinks it is. Pic as evidence of my ownershit experience

 

That should have talked him out?
Good review.

 

Love my exotic 2 wheels but for touring brought a BMW.

There's enough adventure out there to require I bring any more surprises with me.

 

For touring if I was serious I’d buy a Honda. The MV is gorgeous though

 

Is there a honda option that's not overweight like the Multi has become?

 

Torque is NOT close. Look at actual dyno tests. The ‘13-14 Multi puts out 78-80 ft-lbs at the rear wheel while the MV is <55. That’s a huge difference. The Multi is ~150% of the MV.

 

I was thinking s1000xr would be an option but looking at s1000r data - if you put bags on an S1000R it would be a very tempting package... the XR is an option but is pretty heavy.

Have you thought about the Super Duke GT or Tuono with Bags?

The MV is pretty but I think I'd be nervous about touring on an MV...

 

Have you thought about the Super Duke GT or Tuono with Bags?

I'd be interested. Both are pushing over $20k new, though and they're hard to come by second hand around here. The Duke GT kind of follows the transformer aesthetic, but I think I could get used to it. The Tuono is labelled a 'hypernaked' and it and the RSV4 look to lean more towards the sport end and less on the comfort side. Good to have options, though.

 

Mate of mine has the KTM 1290GT. Nice bike and really small.
It's a proper weapon and fast as you like in a straight line. It's his first bike and he's still to explore the potential but it toured well with the factory panniers and had great tank range.

Should I get rid of my Multi, I'll be getting one.

 

I have a friend who had one - the critical term being "had". It's a nice bike, good motor, and you'd probably love it.

What you won't love? The ownership experience - quality, parts availability, getting it serviced, weird issues, etc. I was with him at a dealer who had a used one on their floor and after we walked by it and checked it out, it sparked an hour-plus convo between us about his previous ownership experience.
Great bike, but no f--cking way would I ever own one.

Why not look for a new or lightly-used 2019 or 2020 1260 S? It'd be a great update to your current bike, and as we've seen on some threads here from owners trying to sell theirs, they are great second-market bikes (for the buyer, anyway). Lots of high quality gems perfectly maintained with no problems and 10k mi for well under $15k.

Edit: I had a '17 SDGT for 4 years before my '21 V4S - they're great bikes, handle well, but they weigh a bit and you can feel it in the turns. Very top-heavy feeling at slow speeds, but it rails well. Motor is amazing, but does the KTM-thing where it gets to about 9500-9800 and it stops pulling to redline and becomes a noisemaker. But from 4k-9500k rpms, it is the hand of god for power, haha. Try to find one of the first or 2nd year redesigns (I think they're 2019 or 2020 models?) with the TFT dash - the older style (2017-2018) is functionally the same as the newer models - suspension update was all software, so that and the motor is the same for those years, but the new headlight + windscreen & TFT dash are nice updates.

 

Why not look for a new or lightly-used 2019 or 2020 1260 S? It'd be a great update to your current bike, and as we've seen on some threads here from owners trying to sell theirs, they are great second-market bikes (for the buyer, anyway). Lots of high quality gems perfectly maintained with no problems and 10k mi for well under $15k.

I don't think I'm yet ready to abandon the brand, but by all reports the newer models have only gotten heavier and it seems some of the old issues persist (fob, fuel sensor). I can't hep but feel like I'd be paying more money for a newer iteration of more of the same. Still, there's a '17 with low miles for $15k (bit high) that looks tempting.

 

If you haven't seen the "bags" Aprilia has for the Tuono, you're missing out:
left hand bag looks promising:

right hand bag pencil case... wait what?

The right hand bag is not only smaller, it's mounted at a different height.

I get the exhaust pipe is there, but I find this so comical.

 

Wow. Yeah, laptop bag and shaving kit?

 

Features seem to be on par with my MTS, but at 421 pounds, it's 150 pounds lighter and 1" lower saddle height, making it much less cumbersome.

I have looked Turismo Veloce longingly as well, beautiful bike.

I don't think 150lbs lighter is realistic. Fully fueled with saddlebags installed it weighs 508lb (Revzilla weighed it for Daily Rider), so maybe 15-25lbs lighter?

 

I don't think 150lbs lighter is realistic. Fully fueled with saddlebags installed it weighs 508lb (Revzilla weighed it for Daily Rider), so maybe 15-25lbs lighter?

Yes, I think the numbers I found were a bit off. The OM for my '13 GT (heavier version) shows 478 pounds (no fuel or battery). The specs for the 2021 Lusso show 423 pounds dry. 50-55 pounds difference seems more realistic.

 

I love my 2013 MV track bike

 

I gave it a serious look as well...until I talked to an owner. There was an issue with the radiator cap not sealing and thus leaking. He said that he waited 12 months for a replacement from Italy as it was a proprietary cap, ie: must come from
MV. Plus the lack of dealers means you can't really tour with any confidence. You could buy two so that one is always running ;-}

 

You could buy two so that one is always running ;-}

Sadly, that's been my Ducati strategy with my MTS and ST2. Other than a few minor age related items (RR, relay and oil pressure sensor), my '99 ST2 has been the more reliable of the two.

 

As someone mentioned, the Tracer is a good bike. It’s a sub900cc triple, so it definitely lacks the torque stomp of a big twin, but it’s quick and fun.

As for KTM there are spy photos and rumors of two potential options: a 17” front/fat rear wheel Super Adventure as well as a heavily updated SD GT using the new chassis from the 2020 SD R.

As for the XR, a friend has a 2016 and I test rode a 2019. From an ergonomics and handling standpoint both felt very similar to my 2013 Multi. I was instantly comfortable and confident. The engine has more up top but a little less down low and it’s a buzz bomb. Another friend has an S1000R and I really don’t like the feel of the BMW in-line 4. Ifsomehow you like the engine, the XR would be a great choice.

 

One of the mechanics where I work has a Tracer 900 GT and he absolutely loves it. He's let me take it for a ride and it's nowhere near as punchy as the MTS but definitely a great bike none the less.

 

I recently did a demo on a Tracer 900. The motor reminded me of a sewing machine. It was a nice bike but I think it’s a step backwards if you’re coming from an MTS.

 

Had a MV 800, hated it, hated the engine, hated the twitchy handling, suspension was crap, never ever again. Ive got 2 touring bikes, my 950S multi (2nd multi, and done over 100,000kms on them with no issues) my other touring bike (fast touring) is my 2020 1290R Superduke, its great to tour on (solo) (ps had a 1290GT previous-great bike). Nothing beats 170 rwhp when your touring I have a 56 litre top box for the 1290R now.

 

I think a lot of us have thought about buying an MV at one time or another. Some of their bikes are just gorgeous. A couple of years ago I was in love with the America and Pirelli editions. When I dug a little deeper, much of the enthusiasm waned. Still, if there had been a dealer within 100 miles, I might have rolled the dice. In the end, I’m happy to learn from other’s mistakes whenever I can. 🤓

 

I think a lot of us have thought about buying an MV at one time or another. Some of their bikes are just gorgeous. A couple of years ago I was in love with the America and Pirelli editions. When I dug a little deeper, much of the enthusiasm waned. Still, if there had been a dealer within 100 miles, I might have rolled the dice. In the end, I’m happy to learn from other’s mistakes whenever I can. 🤓

Yeah, I tried it on (MV) a few years back and got pretty much the same feedback. I was hoping I'd hear something positive this time, but no such luck. I agree; their bikes are just gorgeous. Such a shame they can't get the rest of it up to par.

 

Have you thought about the smaller MTS? The V2S would be near the top of your budget but I strongly recommend a test ride on it. It really is as good as they say it is.

 

My MV Brutale track bike. I love it, but it's definitely a labor of love.

 

Add in that the price of a Brutale 800 RR is about the same as. Tuono Factory or base SFV4 and it’s puzzling that they sell any bikes.

 

I just had a Turismo at the shop today, nice looking bike. I have a Dragster coming in for some poor running issues and had one of the Americas in the shop a few weeks ago. Modern MV is similar to 1990's Ducati, don't buy one as your only bike. But stare at them long enough and you may want one. I resisted riding a F800 for a long time because I liked the look, after riding I understand I would need to throw away the injection and mount some keihin FCR's so I will need to keep saving for the carburetors.

 

I've ridden an older F3 and F4... I'd not hesitate to buy either if it was my third or fourth bike... they're so damned pretty. .

 

I recently swapped bikes with my mate who has the MV Brutale 1090RR in the American colors. Gorgeous bike but didn't like it at all. like riding a scalpel. Harsh as anything, point and shoot type of bike. High revving with not the torque I thought it would have. Couldn't wait to get off it.
He has to regularly service the rear hub. Something to do with it not designed for our rough pot holed roads. Also had a few electrical gremlin issues.
The plus I didn't expect was the very good engine breaking which surprised me. I liked the Brutale 800RR better. I thought about the Veloce once as second hand they are relatively cheap bikes.
Don't think I would go for an MV unless it was a track bike.

 

If it needs saying, I'm sufficiently dissuaded from anything by MV.

The BMW R 1250 RS popped up again on my radar. But at 536 pounds without bags... I'm with @DaveK. Why did Sport Tourers have to become such fatties?

The more I look, the more the MTS appears to be one of the lightest options in this niche. At this point I think I'll focus on trying to resolve the issues that I can with my current ride.

Thanks for all the feedback!

 

The odd thing is, watching Zack Courts' daily rider video on the Turismo Veloce Lusso, he said it's "almost 510lbs", which isn't exactly what I'd call light-weight for a bike of that size. I'm not sure why everything else I see online says it's much lighter than that? Is it because he has the optional bags on it?

Are his numbers way off?

 

The odd thing is, watching Zack Courts' daily rider video on the Turismo Veloce Lusso, he said it's "almost 510lbs", which isn't exactly what I'd call light-weight for a bike of that size. I'm not sure why everything else I see online says it's much lighter than that? Is it because he has the optional bags on it?

Are his numbers way off?

Sounds kinda close, depending? The Lusso specs show 439 pounds dry weight. But they don't define "dry". 5.7 gallons of gas puts it at 473. If "dry" also excludes coolant, oil and maybe battery I could see 510 lbs. Bags are standard with the Lusso, so you'd assume they include them in the weight, but hard to say.

 

Keep in mind that the BMW boxer variants carry their weight very low and feel a lot lighter than they are. MY GSA feels 100lbs lighter than it is. Weight down low, and a crank that isnt adding gyroscopic effect, coupled with a different geometry can make a big bike feel very nimble.

 

The GS family of bikes are supurb at what they do. They are very well crafted and excellently engineered so I understand why so many people have such high opinions of them. I thoroughly enjoyed riding a hired 1250GS around the Picos de Europa last year (big shout out to IMTBike Bilbao). It was only when I had handed it back and was walking away from the garage that I realized that I had absolutely no emotional connection with the bike. For me it was just a machine, admittedly a bloody good machine, but one at the other end of the emotional spectrum from the MV Turismo Veloce. One is a bike you say "till death do us part", the other is an affair of passion that you hope your mother doesn't find out. I suppose I am not quite brave enough or rich enough to keep an MV as a mistress (yet), even though I would sorely love to. On the other hand, I used to think that Ducati was beyond my reach but I now ride the best Sport tourer I have ever ridden!