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I am having the worst luck. :mad:

Long story long, I find an 04 Matrix with 2200 miles on it at a large dealer in NC. They don't sell Ducati any more, but they used to and they carry several other large lines of bikes. It has half termi system, carbon fiber everything, open clutch cover, TBR risers, and some other misc stuff.

They said it was a one owner trade in, no accidents, tipovers, crashes, etc... It was described by the sales manager and salesperson as in mint showroom condition with excellent tires. The only blemish disclosed was the passenger side carbon air duct was messed up.

So they send me some pics and we agree on a price of 11,400. I'm thinking this is a good deal and it's from a major dealer up there so it's got to be legit.

Well, we do the all night drive from FL to NC and get there around 930am. They were not ready for me and for some reason thought I wasn't showing up till 5pm. Good thing I was early.

They were in the back wrenching on the bike because they couldn't get it running. They worked on it for an hour and half before they got it running and claimed it was a bad set of plugs. Took a good look over the bike. Found a 4 inch scratch on the left side lower. Lots of small scratches and rock chips. A large chip (4mm) down to the bare metal on the gas tank. The front of the triple tree was scratched and scraped (who knows how that happened). The brake resovoir was rubbing on the windscreen. The tires were mismatched with different brands. And to top off, the clutch lever is scraped up on the end. What do you know??? It's been dropped. Son of a bitch.

They panic and apologize. I take it for a ride. It runs goods. I ask about the service records and the original owner and the owner's manual. They give me some song and dance about not being able to get in touch with the original owner. I'm calling bullshit on this one as they took the Matrix on trade for a $50,000 chopper. They know how to get a hold of him.

They offer me the bike for 10,400. This is what they claim to have in it on trade. I tell them to forget it. They've been completely dishonest at this point. I tried to rationalize with myself about getting it, but I knew it wasn't right that I had to talk myself into getting the bike. It should be a no brainer. For an 04 with 2200 miles, this bike was very very rough around the edges. Even the oil cooler and radiator were kind of beat up, not to mention the front portion of the lower fairing was completely peppered. Just didn't look like a 2200 mile bike.

So there you have it. I'm now hosed on my 3rd bike. I can't believe how dishonest people are with these bikes. I've never seen anything like it. Had I know about these problems up front, I could have thought on it some and maybe gone for it or had Ducati inspect it. However, them putting me on the spot put me in a bad position to make such a large financial decision on a very iffy bike.

So now I'm out $250 in gas and 22 hours of driving time. This blows. Sorry for the rant. Had to let it out :D I'm about ready to give up on this. What is up with Ducati owners not being able to keep the rubber side down? :confused:
 

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deputydog95 said:
What is up with Ducati owners not being able to keep the rubber side down? :confused:
The prev. owner could'nt handle a real bike and had to get a chopper instead:loser
As for scumbag dealerships, we got 'em over on this side too.
Sorry about your misfortune but don't give up, these bikes IMO are worth some frustration(but moreso after and not before purchase I suppose)
Good luck to ya though



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i know how you feel.i looked around at some used originaly,and also questioned why someone would buy a bike and only ride it for a few hundred miles?ended up buying a new 749 and think its the smartest thing i ever did.
 

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In the future, just have someone from this forum that lives in the area check it out for you. I've done this many times and always had great results.......

Sorry for your event...........But you did the right thing. 10 large is a bunch of green, I would have walked on this one also. But I would have knocked over a few bikes "accidently" on the way out....:)
 

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Man that really sucks! I can try to imagine how it feels, when you set your sights on something, are all geared up to buy it and it's a huge let down...

But, rest assured, you will find your bike. And when you do, you're going to know it. The moment you see it, you know; "this is it!"

You've had patience this far (I've followed your quest..) I know you'll have it 'til the end. It takes willpower to walk away from 3 bikes!

Good Luck!
 

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Sorry to hear that.

As stated before, have someone check it out locally for you. I'm sure there are lots of nice people on this forum. It will cut down on the travel expenses. Also, PICs PICs PICs. If they can't or won't do this for you, then it's not worth it. :)

Good luck. You'll find her I'm sure.

That R is nice as well as the 998.
 

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Sorry to hear that.

As stated before, have someone check it out locally for you. I'm sure there are lots of nice people on this forum. It will cut down on the travel expenses. Also, PICs PICs PICs. If they can't or won't do this for you, then it's not worth it. :)

Good luck. You'll find her I'm sure.

That R is nice as well as the 998.

Belive me, they sent me pics, pics, pics. Unfortunately, they conventiently managed to not send any pics of the f'd up pieces. Imagine that....

Not to mention, you have a reputable dealer telling you it's mint. I assumed his word would be worth a little more than a private party. I just don't see how they missed all these things that I picked up on in 5 mins. To top it off, the damn thing wasn't even in running condition when I got there. :mad:

If I find a long distance bike again, definately gonna do two things. One, take the advice given on here and try to find someone local to take a look at it for me. Two, it's definatley going to a Ducati dealer for a once over. That $50 spent at the dealer would have saved me $200 and a whole lot of drive time.

I wished I like the 999 looks, as that would be a no brainer with all the low mileage cleane examples out there.
 

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Here is another Matrix in CA for a good price and looks really CLEAN. Look at the miles!

http://www.motaliausa.com/usedbikes.htm


Same Bike here:
http://www.craigslist.org/sfc/mcy/140435536.html

Same bike here too:
http://bayarearidersforum.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=145141

The links posted are from the same exact bike being offered in the links. Motaliausa currently has the bike.
Thanks for the links. Already knew about that one. It's a consignment deal at motalia. They want every bit of 14K for it. That's too much money for a bone stock bike. I know it's more or less new, but I'm sure it's got it's own problems since it's been just sitting for 2 years with no riding.

The green is really my second choice. Although it is spectacular in person. Pics don't do it justice. I only jumped on this one based on the price and riddiculous amount of mods he had done to it. You know what they say, if it's too good to be true, it's not.

I'm going to go back and try to focus on my yellow 996/998 biposto.
 

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Belive me, they sent me pics, pics, pics. Unfortunately, they conventiently managed to not send any pics of the f'd up pieces. Imagine that....

Not to mention, you have a reputable dealer telling you it's mint. I assumed his word would be worth a little more than a private party. I just don't see how they missed all these things that I picked up on in 5 mins. To top it off, the damn thing wasn't even in running condition when I got there. :mad:

If I find a long distance bike again, definately gonna do two things. One, take the advice given on here and try to find someone local to take a look at it for me. Two, it's definatley going to a Ducati dealer for a once over. That $50 spent at the dealer would have saved me $200 and a whole lot of drive time.

I wished I like the 999 looks, as that would be a no brainer with all the low mileage cleane examples out there.
I would have made it clear to them that I would be travelling many miles to see the bike and if it was misrepresented you would be sure to let the hundreds of people on a popular message board of your experience.

Those shiesters probably came from a used car dealership.
 

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dude at least u didn't buy it! there are plenty out there!
 

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I think your experience was well spent. Like someone else said, at least you didn't end up buying it. Like someone else also said, when the "right" bike comes up, and you see it, you will know it. If there's any hesitation, it's sometimes hard, but walk away. And you did. Kudos.

FWIW, some dealers I know that sell used ducs give a 30, 60, or 90 day DEALER warranty. If you're buying from a dealer, I'd ask for it - I mean they should stand buy what they sell even if it's used, right?

I also think that you can gauge the seller/dealer by how they act - truthful, knowledge of the bike, meticulous, etc... are all good. If they beat around the bush, omit things, outright lie, don't keep the bike clean/good shape, etc..., I'd pass.

You WILL find your bike eventually, and it will be more satisfying because of your experiences.
 

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sorry bout that man.....seems you are finding the lemons out there which makes for a sour mix...but not all of em out there are lemons....be meticulous as you have been and you'll find that bike that makes the sweetness of it all worth the while!
 

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i think he gave up. :(

Watch, as soon as he gets his monster about 5 998s in yellow with low miles in mint (real) condition go up for sale in his neighborhood :)

Ah, you gotta love life. Bittersweet.
 

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deputydog95 said:
I hate to point fingers, but...... :) :) :)
I think a bunch of us from this forum should email the dealer regarding the bike. We should tell them that a member of a worldwide Ducati forum drove 22hrs to look at it based on their description "very clean" only to discover that it was in reality "very NOT clean" and their deception is not acceptable.

after about 20 or so emails...they should get the drift.

It just might teach them a lesson they can benefit from.
 
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