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Twin engine:
MV doesn't make a good looking bike:
Parts for when I crash:

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Life is short, try everything.

I’m hetro. No thanks. ?
Doing contract work for the importer here I get the chance to rid everything. The F4 is big and feels heavy and like the rest of the range, is messy to work on. The F3 800 is at the other end of the spectrum, feels like an R6 on steroids but still a bastard to work on. Parts are slow to arrive and spendy, had to wait 6 mounts for cush drive rubbers and 2 mounts for some decals. Customers weren’t happy.

 

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You couldnt be more wrong on both accounts, The Brutale is a beast and a fantastic track bike and everyday rider - except - I couldnt find a comfortable seat - Tried 4 different ones including having a custom one made twice. The 1098 is no slouch but the F4 is faster in both top speed and acceleration. It just sucks to ride it.

I think for most people the choice is simple, you either want a V twin or you want an I4 - most Ducati enthusiasts like twins and do not like 4's. And most people want a reputable dealer close by with parts available. That is rare in most places in the states for MV. Those two things alone make the decision an easy one.

Personally, I grew up riding 4 cyl bikes so my love for 4 cyl bikes is an exception in the Ducati crowd.

I didn’t mention any of the other bikes in the range as this I’d a superbike thread and he was asking about the F4 and I don’t consider the Brutale a superbike. I’d put it in the Monster class of bikes. On saying that, the Brutale is a brilliant bike but again, like so many new bikes, isn’t owner/mechanic friendly. I owned the first model F4 and got rid of I because it was to tall for me and felt it to be to top heavy. Same as last years RC. But to each their own.

 

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How about Bimota ? I never liked those star wheels on the MV. Reading all these owners comments isn’t making owning an MV any more tempting.

Oh my lord. NEVER s bimota. When you start to work on them and see the “quality” of fit and finish you’ll run for the hill. And when they go broke for the eighth time.........

 

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Afternoon ducvet. Even though the first incarnation of the mv was a Tamburini design it lacked a lot of what made the 916 and it wasn’t a patch one the 916 when it came to work on. The denso alternator was difficult to remove and problematic to repair as it had a built in reg/rec. it was cheaper to convert to a seperate reg/ref then replace the standard item. That crazy flat spot just above idle did a lot of people’s heads in. I didn’t like the headlight/fairing/mirror bracket assembly. Didn’t like pulling the engine to fix the problematic big ends (in the 1000). The cassette gearbox was a nice feature but that’s about it. The reverse crank was also interesting. Radial valves, they could keep them. Loved the sexy fat forks. The QR front axle was a nice but not a well thought out feature. And what was it with the fragile hub bearing??

 

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You

The things I like about the 1098s are; how “skinny” it felt. The lightweight sensation while riding (flickablity). The instant hard pull when opening the throttle. The noise. The brakes. The red paint everywhere. And....the noise


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You’ve answered your own question then..........

 

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Back in 05, I rode a buddies F4 and he rode my 916. I love the look of the MV, no problem there, but my first impression of the F4 was its height. It felt like I was sitting on top of it instead of in it as the Ducati. Unfortunately, the roads were wet in the hills that day so I couldn't wring it out and give it a real test. I had no doubt power would have been incredible, but I also got the feeling I was riding a Japanese bike due to the engine sound, etc. Not a big deal because I was so used to riding twins. I liked the power delivery of the twin better, but I figured in time I could adjust to an I/4, which I did when I bought a Honda 600RR for the track and brisk hill rides. There is something intoxicating about high rev limits, in my case, I overindulged and crashed badly on the Honda. For some reason, I didn't like hitting the rev limiter on the Ducati, I treated them more with kid gloves in that regard. I've always said, I never would have crashed that day if I were riding my Ducati.

I disagree with your sound value. Nothing nicer than a Ducati at full noise through the coastal cliffs. Riders on fours hear and feel you before they see you as you come up to pass?. And it's good value sitting behind some riders and out of mirror view?.

 

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That’s funny....
Is the MV not impressive enough to collect multiples of? Does it lack the charisma that’s inherent in the Ducati brand?


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Hi Bob. Please don’t take this the wrong way. The short answer is yes. The way you word the question make it sound that you are guilting the person you are asking. Speaking for myself, I’ve chosen the Ducati path because I just like them better for the most INTANGIBLE reasons. I won’t and don’t justify my choice in a way that puts one brand or one’s personal choicedown, and I feel your question compels that type of answer.

 

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I figured as much but was more thinking what others may have thought?. Alluding back to what I said about the intangible. From early days in my life l learnt that my tastes weren’t others and though I couldn’t see what other saw as beautiful I learnt never to criticise others or there choice of bikes. I admire most of the mv range, past and present and wanted to love my F4 but I hated walking past it every day and looking over at the Ducati’s parked beside it. It’s like being married but always look at your wife’s sister. And for those on the forum that know me, we won’t go there???