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or any thereof equivalent to the Dual Stars (sold under different brands) on their ST?

How did you wire the grips? red only, blue only, both? Results: too hot? not hot enuf?

Did you shrinkwrap the left bar? once or twice?

Any other tips would be appreciated.

TIA
 

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[ Put an auxiliary harness off the battery using a relay and the switched and fused power supply from the existing heated grip socket that is unused in the fairing. From there I ran a powerlet socket to the dash to power my tankbag; heated grips and a battery condition light - all in the removable plastic panel below the speedo/tacho (the one held in with three screws). I wired the grips as per the instructions with the low and high setting and have only used them on the high setting and they are warm enough.

I did not heatshrink the left side and it is cooler than the right. I do not ride below freezing, but the last few mornings it has hovered around freezing and a definite improvement but not as warm as the BMW grips. At $30 worth doing though.
 

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I think that I just wired mine by the directions, nothing fancy. I wrapped the left clip- on w/ electrical tape. BUT if I were to do it again I would put a few layers of shrink wrap on the left clip- on. My left grip takes much longer to heat up than the right.
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I put them on my Concours. Wired them like the destructions said. I put one layer of heat-shrink on the left clip-on. Now, it's a smidge warmer than the right. I used some 3M high temp trim adhesive from Auto Zone to glue the heat-shirnk and grips on. You've gotta be quick getting the grips on, but at least it is not permanent like epoxy.

I like 'em!
 

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I have had Dual Stars wired into the Ducati Designs headlight harnesses on both my 01-ST4 and 02-ST4s. I put one layer of shrink wrap on the clutch side handlebars, but it was not enough. Both bikes had aluminum Heli bars and we all know aluminum is a good conductor of heat. If you go with the Dual Stars, I recommend you substitute a marine grade switch for that ugly cheapa** one which comes with the kit. A three way (hi-off-lo) switch worked fine for me.
 

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Securing the right grip

Got the grips on and I am not pleased with how the throttle side turned out.

My throttle sleeve has vertical raised grooves on it to engage in matching grooved inside of the grip. Well, it seems as though after putting the heated element on over top of the grooves, the grip doesn't want to stay in place.

I'm thinking that maybe by taking off the grip (used WD40) it stretched out a little and maybe I just need to put on new grips. They are the originals on an '01 ST2.

I didn't want to have to glue the grips down on the heating element.

Any other suggestions?

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There is a review of the Dual Stars in the latest edition of "Rider". Dual Star now offers an optional upgraded switch which looks a whole lot better than the original one. The article is worth reading if you are contemplating purchasing Dual Stars. The bike "Rider" used for the installation was an ST3.
 

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Got the grips on and I am not pleased with how the throttle side turned out.

My throttle sleeve has vertical raised grooves on it to engage in matching grooved inside of the grip. Well, it seems as though after putting the heated element on over top of the grooves, the grip doesn't want to stay in place.

I'm thinking that maybe by taking off the grip (used WD40) it stretched out a little and maybe I just need to put on new grips. They are the originals on an '01 ST2.

I didn't want to have to glue the grips down on the heating element.

Any other suggestions?

TIA
You might think about replacing the grips! I had the same problem with my installation. My throttle grip would slide a little over the Dual-Star element. Not so much that you could feel it slip as you twist, but the grip would always end up twisted over time.

I found a set of grips that fit tighter and since I've put them on, they've stayed solid and firm. Some grips just fit tighter than others.
 

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I bought and installed a "Heat Troller" control on the dash.




Here is a close up:




One from underneath:




I wrapped the left side with some heavy electrical tape. The rubber kind.



Direct wired it off of the fuse for the grips. I will change this to a switched relay the next time that I have the farings off.



The grips are not hot enough IMO, but on the ST3, I get so much cold wind over my hands that it is hard for the grip heater to overcome. They definately help, but at around freezing and at legal+ speeds, my hands are still cold.
 

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The grips are not hot enough IMO, but on the ST3, I get so much cold wind over my hands that it is hard for the grip heater to overcome. They definately help, but at around freezing and at legal+ speeds, my hands are still cold.
No matter how hot any heated grips get, they simply can't help when temps get down to and below freezing. They can't warm the tips of the fingers or the back of the hand.

I find that the dual-star elements and a good pair of Winter gloves will work well for me down to near freezing, but for longer journeys at or below freezing, I use Gerbing heated gloves.
 

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No matter how hot any heated grips get, they simply can't help when temps get down to and below freezing. They can't warm the tips of the fingers or the back of the hand.

I find that the dual-star elements and a good pair of Winter gloves will work well for me down to near freezing, but for longer journeys at or below freezing, I use Gerbing heated gloves.

Agreed, right around freezing is where I am only good for about an hour at a time on the ST3. Without heat it would be around 15 minutes. I have always had hand protection of some kind on my sport tourers and will go with gerbing gloves next winter. We just about have this one in the bag! Yesterday it was 60 here and got out for a nice ride on both days of the weekend. gotta love it!!!!
 

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My question is this: How difficult is it to reinstall the grips after you've wrapped the heating element around the tube? When I installed my CycleCats I used grip glue but it doesn't seem glue would be wise for this problem.

Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
 

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My question is this: How difficult is it to reinstall the grips after you've wrapped the heating element around the tube? When I installed my CycleCats I used grip glue but it doesn't seem glue would be wise for this problem.

Any suggestions would be much appreciated.

Fly,

The best way to reinstall the grip over the bar is --NOT-- to use any adhesive, soap or lubricant. Just slide the far end of the grip over the bar and then use compressed air. Put the nozzle of your compressed air tube into the grip and then hold the grip over the nozzle with one hand while operating the air valve with the other hand, This forces the grip to want to blow up like a balloon and create an air bearing between the grip and the bar. The grip slides over the bar very easily. I have done this on numerous grips with and without dual-star element and I have never had a problem of the grip moving after the installation over the throttle sleeve.

-Fariborz
 

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What Fariborz says

+ 1 I never had to mess with glue.
 
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