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At 17000 trouble free miles a recent problem arose,my engine lite came on and would stall at idle.the bike went in for service and a mutitude of things were done including belts,plugs,all fluids,exhaust valve adjustment,fuel filter,bla bla bla.a day later the lite is still on and runs like crap.they said the lite is just the atmospheric sensor in the gauges thats bad.it's a $900 fix for new gauges,does any of this sound right ?:confused:
 

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Air temperature sensor is behind the headlight. Part number 552.4.031.2B on a 2009, cost is $84.53. Maybe they are referring to something else, but if not the labor to remove three screws is a bit steep...
 

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My GT had similar symptoms just before its 15k service. It was initially diagnosed as a bad atmospheric pressure sensor. I'm not sure if this is the same sensor your shop was referring to (It's the one behind the headlight.), but my shop just swapped it with one from a Monster they had on hand. It cost something like $90 bucks, not $900.

After the swap, they found the sensor wasn't bad after all. There was a short in the sensor wire just behind the head stock. Fixing that solved the problem.

The shop didn't say anything about needing to replace the gauges too, which is where I presume most of that $900 quote comes from.
 

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This is the sensor and the rough location of where it is mounted behind the headlight. Mine is a little broken in this pic. :(

 

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The sensor you show in the pictures is the one I am referring to. $84.53 on most online OEM parts vendors.
 

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In the Ducati Workshop manual, go to page 18, section M3, for removing/installing the air pressure/temperature sensor (although, honestly, they're pretty lame instructions).

If the sensor is bad it will need replacing because it is something the system DOES need. It is something you could do yourself if you're comfortable with changing spark plugs or brake pads i.e. no great skill needed, just disassembly of the head light area and then reassembly.
 

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The part their talking about is located in the instruments ,the little plug in-between the gauges,they call it a baro air sensor.this is all new to me,makes me miss my Honda! Bike in question is a 07GT.
 

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Sounds like you guys are talking about the same thing. Get a new barometric air pressure/temperature sensor and swap it out yourself. It's not in the gauges, it mounts in the back side of the headlight U bracket on the left side. Take a look and you'll see it. $900 is waaaayy too much to charge to do the swap. Unless there is something else they found that is FUBAR that needs replacing.

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The part their talking about is located in the instruments ,the little plug in-between the gauges,they call it a baro air sensor.this is all new to me,makes me miss my Honda! Bike in question is a 07GT.
I'm not sure there are any actual sensors in the gauge cluster, thats a question for one of the guys on the forum that has had their gauges apart. The only air pressure sensor on the bike that shows up in the wiring prints is the one bolted to the back side of the headlight bracket. I googled the thing, Bosch 0 261 230 030. Comes back as a MAP(Manifold Absolute Pressure) with integrated temp sensor. Really hoping you didn't spend $900 to have them replace the gauges. It should have been the $85 or so for the Bosch part and maybe 1.5-2 hours tops for labor to replace it. It's a total of three bolts you need to remove to replace the thing.
 

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The part their talking about is located in the instruments ,the little plug in-between the gauges,they call it a baro air sensor.
They don't always know what they're saying or how they're explaining it; what they say and what they mean can be a little bit different. If they said "baro air sensor" then what I and the others posted about the SINGLE sensor that is both the barometer AND air temp sensor is what you need to replace (if they said that is what they would do). Done.

this is all new to me,makes me miss my Honda! Bike in question is a 07GT.
Carbs suck! There's nothing magical about FI and the only thing that carbs are better at is induction sound. Period. Just like it takes proper tools and knowledge for adjusting carbs (different jets, jet reamers, carb cleaner, etc) the same goes for FI. The nice thing with FI is that fuel mapping/timing is a simple click on a computer on the fly, no disassembling and swapping jets, adjusting screws, etc. It's pretty damn easy. The FI system on these bikes is basic. Very basic.
 

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Is there another shop nearby you can take it to for a second opinion and quote?
 

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Thanks for all the info guys,I'm going to look into the part 0261230030. Looks like an easy fix if my mech on on the same page as you guys,I hope that's all it is.
 

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Thanks for all the info guys,I'm going to look into the part 0261230030. Looks like an easy fix if my mech on on the same page as you guys,I hope that's all it is.
Just remember that is the Bosch p/n off the sensor itself. The Ducati p/n is 552.4.031.2b
 

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Thanks all,it's official you guys know more then those frecken rip-off artists at EUROPEAN CYCLE SERVICE,$1000 later and the mutt still trying to sell me gauges when it's a $85 part,unfrecken believable,out and out thieves.and these are the ducati specialists!fcken mutts if your asking me.
 

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Just a suggestion, but in my experience, it's just as likely to have a poor connection to the sensor (take it apart at the connector, clean it and reassemble a few times) as the sensor itself failing.
 
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