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Want Help Purchasing a 748 98-02

Hi I'm a rider with some experience. been riding for 1 year now and really love the design and look of the 916-998 series, but i don't want too much power that I might get into trouble... I most likely will do some canyon carving and city riding.
so I have decided to try and get a decent condition 748 with around 10k milage. a few question I have... is there anything mechanical that is should be careful with the 748's and any important maintaince is should note of.

also what is a fair price for 748 with 10k milage on it? i don't want to pay too much fo the bike... so i need a market value...

PLEASE leave any advise on the topic thanks i really appriciate it.
 

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Hmm lets see,

mechanical gremlins...the biggest with the 748 is probably the flaking cam rockers. Do a search about this for detailed info.

maitenance..., well I personally feel that all maitence is important, that being said, probably cam belts and oil changes are most important.

Also just so you know. I purchased my 748 as an economical solution (instead of spending the extra $$$ for a 996) and I am very happy with it BUT in stock trim it just won't make power where you want it for "city" riding. In fact the sorta crappy ergos, hot seat, tall gearing, and lack of power at anything less than about 8000 rpm makes city riding kind of impractical...but I do it anyhow :) Usually I ride my Monster S2R in town and the 748 on suitable Virginia backroads. I've never riddin a 996 but I suspect they are somewhat better for usable power.
 

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I went from a SV650, to a 916, yes the power difference is dramatic, but power is addicting. Self control is a must. Like you I started out looking for a 748, no luck, all I kept finding was crap, beaten bikes. End up finding a prvite party 916 at a fair price.
Still have the SV and ride that regularly.
Just food for thought.
 

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svkeith said:
I went from a SV650, to a 916, yes the power difference is dramatic, but power is addicting. Self control is a must. Like you I started out looking for a 748, no luck, all I kept finding was crap, beaten bikes. End up finding a prvite party 916 at a fair price.
Still have the SV and ride that regularly.
Just food for thought.
I recently "upgraded" from a 900SS to a 748 and I love it -- yes, even for riding around town. Down in the 3000-6000 or so RPM range, its character isn't really so different from the SS (although it's not as loud and not quite as torquey). The real power is up in the 10000-12000 RPM range, and then this thing really wakes up...but it's sort of hard to get up in that range without trying to, which is also good for running around town. Disclaimer: my bike has an 853 kit in it, so it may have a bit more oomph than a stock 748 -- I think (theoretically at least) it's roughly equivalent to an early 916.

But the point about the hot seat and ergos is well-taken. The one thing I really wish is that the thing didn't run so hot -- but some of that is probably the big-bore kit.
 

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with 10 k on the clock, check out the rockers, change the belts etc.
a nice model to get would be the 2002 senna model( flat black/grey with red wheels ),i've seen some pretty good prices for low milage bikes,( you could probobly find one between 6-8 k )

i like the 02 models also, because of the cleaner fairings ( 998 vs 996/916 )

....most importantly, with my experiance, i had a 02 748, loved everything
about it, but i started to crave more power, today i have a 02 998.

as a back door,try to find a 748 that you could sell easier, just in case you crave more power.
 

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I recently purchased a 01' 748s. It came with a few goodies like CF Termi half-system, correct-chip, ITG filter, lightned fly-wheel, carbon hugger, CF clutch cover. It had been dropped at a very slow speed and had some very minor cosmetic damage on one side. (Cost me less then 500 bucks to have it repainted).

I paid 7500 for the bike with 10K on the clock. Now before anyone calls me nuts the key factor to the purchase was COMPLETE service records from BCM Ducati. That to me was worth a slight premium for a slightly damaged bike. It was also imported from Spain since the fella was in the service. So I also have the Euro light control to shut off the head-light.

Over all like a couple have said, watch those rockers and also the fly-wheel bolt is known to back out and make a mess.

I would rather pay more for something with the service records then pay 1K less for something with no paperwork. Hell, I wouldn't buy a Ducati with no paper work.

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748 pricing

Hey- I'll chime here. I have an older ('98) 748. I picked up about a year ago. I was on the fence between financing something and scrounging enough disposable cash to buy one outright. I decided to go the second route and "revive" a so-so example. This thing was advertised at $5300 firm with about 8,500 on the clock.

It was sketchy from the get-go. One of those typically strange deals where the seller was a boat dealer and had taken it on a trade from a friend toward a new boat purchase. The title was in the previous owner's name. The seller knew nothing about the history of the thing or Ducati's in general. It of course came with no records whatsoever.

Within a week the pressurized coolant reservoir failed, which is common on those due to poor quality HDPE. Repair is nearly impossible, so I found a nice used replacement for about $60 on ebay.

The farings were very lightly rashed in two spots and the color on the lowers doesn't quite match the mid's- probably just a cheap replacement job, then someone went and decided that spray painting the airbox and chin fairing black would be a good idea??? I guess to give it that SPS look. Fortunately both pieces are so commonly replaced with carbon I was able to find them for next to nothing. I even won a perfect airbox for $15(!!!) on ebay, the chin fairing $8(!!!!!) but I guess due to a subtle change in later bikes it doesn't quite line up.

I'm at 12k now and its been running strong since I got it. I'm pulling the heads tomorrow, so we'll see how those rockers look (cross your fingers for me). It also came with Marchesini 5-spokes- which I love. For a total of about $300 in odds and ends since I got its been a fairly presentable completely reliable example.

I've been slowly working toward returning it tip-top shape. Its about to get a kick in the butt with an 853 kit. Fairings are going to paint soon as well. If you're somewhat mechanical and patient you can ride a Ducati without being a millionaire! But be ready- it ain't no Honda.

Good luck.
 

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WOW thanks for all the response on the topic, so far i found a seller on a 2001 748 with 6000miles, for $6500, so i'm thinking about taking it. but I haven't even seen the bike.. so i know there are slight scratch from a stand still drop.. but i want to look at the bike before I say I'll take it.

and about the Rockers... is that problem hard to check? any way of doing it? and would that proble cause oil leak??

thanks again
 

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No, it would be completely independent of any sort of leak. The rocker arms that ride on the cam lobes are chromed in the contact area to prevent premature wear. The chrome plating QC apparently left a good bit to be desired and as a result a substantial portion of the bikes have had issues with the rockers flaking in that critical area. The result can be anything between valve clearances being outside of acceptable to the marred surface gouging the cam lobe.

The only certain way to check them is to remove the valve covers and release the rocker retainers to visually inspect them. This would take place as part of the valve adjustment and can make a $400 valve job into a $1400+ valve job- depending on the extent of the damage. Lots of folks who experience A bad rocker will opt for a complete set to (hopefully) prevent any further issues of that nature. I haven't had any personal experience with this as of yet- like I said keep your fingers crossed, however it seems that Megacycle holds the market share in rocker arm replacement for Ducati SBK owners.

One other alternative might be to have the engine oil analized for contamination. I'm no expert on it, but I used to work in a shop and I seem to recall that being a common practice on the shop team's race bikes after an engine break-in to assure there was nothing abnormal about the assembly. Its a heck of a lot less intrusive, but at 10k you'd might as well just pony up for the 12k service and make sure. Plus if those timing belts are more than two years old they should really be replaced anyway. Having that engine skip time in the middle of a turn could ruin your whole afternoon or whatever.

$6500 seems very reasonable, but you may try to make a little room for negotiation before you see it to a) find out how receptive the seller is to the idea that maybe since your going to have to drop at least $1K on an upcomming service interval and b) keep yourself from just caving in and giving the asking price once you hear that sweet rumble of an idling L-twin.

For more educated and perhaps correct info on the rocker issue just type in "rocker flaking" to the search field on this sight and you'll get the whole rundown. Because as I mentioned I'm no expert and I'm also somewhat hammered right now!

Good luck.
 

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I paid 7500 for the bike with 10K on the clock. Now before anyone calls me nuts the key factor to the purchase was COMPLETE service records from BCM Ducati. That to me was worth a slight premium for a slightly damaged bike...............................................................................................
I would rather pay more for something with the service records then pay 1K less for something with no paperwork. Hell, I wouldn't buy a Ducati with no paper work.

-CC
Any of us who know BCM understand how right you are. You may recall that my 998 came from a BCM customer too. Proper maintenance is absolutely key to a used Duc purchase. Lovin' this 998 btw. Just installed a Puig "double bubble" screen and am about to put on a 38T sprocket. Can't wait to feel the difference.

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you should have no problem finding a mint 748 with less thank 7,000 miles for around $7500. I bought my 02 748 new a few years ago and know its not worth much more than that today. It seems alot of folks that own ducati's (weekend rider types) dont put on tons of miles, so I would try to hunt down one with under 7-8k miles. things you might want to look for as extras; aftermarket exhaust, upgraded rear shock, front forks, new chain and sprockets, and rearsets. These are very comman mods and alot of 748's-996/8 have some or all of these upgraded. Also I would try to find a "clean one", that is well cared for, and later year model, 00-02. Good Luck!
 

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rockerT problem

What YEAR bikes has the rocker problem?
also i'm looking at two different 916 one of them is 97 with only 5k miles for 7800... that's seem like a decent deal.
but I would like to know what year are the ROCKER problem most common, and what type of problems does 916 have been know to have?

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The 916s are less prone to having the rocker problems AFAIK since they don't rev as high.

The early superbikes had weak charging systems IIRC and other minor differences basically.

If I was looking for one to ride a lot, I'd look for the later model years personally since more than a few improvements were made over the years.
 

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what will the 38t spocket do?
is that the same as the monster?
i drove a s4, and it seemed crazy fun.
i got a 998 also, what are we running?
 

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how about this one!
Ebay # 4638081522
02 748 with under 300miles! WTF.
Look at the chicken strips on the rear tire, it looks like its never been ridden, got any buddies in Florida? :D
 

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I wish I got buddy in florida...
but thanks, I'm currently watching the auction too.
but i think it will go for at least 8500 for a bike with only 250 miles on it... :eek:
 

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how about this one!
Ebay # 4638081522
02 748 with under 300miles! WTF.
Look at the chicken strips on the rear tire, it looks like its never been ridden, got any buddies in Florida? :D
lol, I'll volunteer to scrub in the tires properly for the new owner...
 

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thats what I mean about "weekend duc riders"; an 02 with under 500 miles, pretty crazy....good deal though to whoever scores it...
 
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