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Can anyone tell me if you can run a 2004 999s without the keys? We are looking at one for a track bike but the keys are not included so I was wondering if we could remove the dash and run the bike with a AIM tach dash?

The question is the does the superbikes use the coded key along with the ECU, i.e. will the bike run without the dash and/or the coded key.

Basically I am looking at options for buy the bike without the key and not paying the $1,800 for a new dash and key set-up to start the bike.

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Sure, you can do a setup without a key, but you still need a dash, the receiver and the "key" (or atleast the transponder part of it).

So basically, the bike will not run without the dash.
 

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This bike has the dash but no keys so are you saying that we could buy the Ducati keyless ingnition and run the bike with the stock dash? Do you have any idea on the cost of the keyless ingnition?

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I'm wondering the same thing.

"WHY DOESN'T THE BIKE HAVE KEYS?" :confused: :mad:
 

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Fly999 said:
I'm wondering the same thing.

"WHY DOESN'T THE BIKE HAVE KEYS?" :confused: :mad:
Apparently it was shipped to the dealer as a bike that was used in shows and they did not get any keys for it. The dealer has contacted Ducati and no one can find the keys. It is not stolen!!!! It has been sitting there for a while so I wanted to make a low ball offer on it if I could use it for a track bike for my wife. The idea posted above to tape the key to the bike and use a toggle switch sounds good if we had the keys available but we don't have them.

Any other suggestions?
 

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If you don´t have the "red" key, getting it to work without replacing the dash will be VERY hard indeed.

I´d guess that the easiest way to do it is to get the dash and new key and bite the bullet.. Even Superstock and superbike racers are using the antenna of the key.. Maybe not the Corsa riders, but everyone running the "for sale" RS-models for sure.
 

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Here's what you do. Go back to another Ducati dealer and say you're bringing the bike in for warranty work. The keys turned invisible and you want them visible again.
 

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$300 for a dash! We were told $1800 for the dash unit with keys!

Ducati would know about the VIN so the other dealer thing might not work so well, interesting idea though.

I wanted to see if I could just get a MyChron dash and use that but the ECU is the problem.
 

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Just take the red wire cut it, take the black wire and cut that, touch the red wire and black wire together. The bike should start.

Either that or you'll stop a bomb from exploding.

I saw it in a movie once :)

Sorry, nothing to offer but a little levity. Good luck with starting it though. It must be killing you guys.
 

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F.I.M. is the answer

You could always buy an F.I.M. ECU which not only does away with the immobilizer but is tunable. You then merely hotwire the ignition.
 

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FIM´s homepage.

http://www.fuelinmoto.com.au/

U59 Features

*Plug-in equivalent of Weber IAW 59M ECU.

*Disables the Immobiliser function for all models. You can use the U59 on a race or track bike without the ignition key, immobiliser aerial, and immobiliser unit.

*Supplied pre-mapped for most applications - slipon mufflers, revised cam timing, etc.

*Fully mappable for Fuel Map, Rear cylinder Correction Map, Spark Map, Fan Cutins, and Rev Limiter using a new version of our Mapper program (available to dealers)

*Can be operated in Road Mode (all side-stand cutouts, starter button, clutch switch etc. functional) or Track Mode (Kill Switch only) so you don't need to wreck your wiring harness to go to the track.

*The Dashboard Water Lamp or ECU check lamp can be used as a Programmable Shift

*Light in addition to the warning function.(Some models only)

*Can be diagnosed using the Ducati Mathesis Tester or our UltiMap Diagnostics Software.

Retail Price USD 725 - contact a dealer for local pricing.

//amullo
 

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If you find anybody selling them anymore let me know. I found a few guys that have dealt with them and dubbed them un-reliable. I think to get in touch with the guys in Australia you need to meet on a Thursday night at 11.36pm, in the Camelot casino. find the black jack dealer at table 5 and give him a note with a public payphone number on it. You then have to wait by that phone for 48 hours until he calls you and gives you the code number. I didn’t get this far, but using a formula and the Aztec calendar you can decipher FiMs fax number, so you can fax them and beg them to contact you back or give you an email address.
 

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I have a contact here in Sweden that sells there stuff. (Biscaya) Very good rep and very good service level. I can check with them to see if they know anything.

I guess you could maybe get a little info through Brad Black at Moto-One in Australia aswell.. He works closely with FIM.

As they appear on FIM´s homepage, my guess is that they still sell them.
 

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Ultimap U59

If you want a U59 ECU try B.C.M. Motorsports
229 Messer St, Laconia, New Hampshire, 03246, USA
I recently had one installed in my S4 and without any tweaking I gained 7 HP and much smoother running. When I get the time I'm going to reset all valve clearances to specs +/- "0" and then put her on the dyno to see how much more I can get. The ability to map each cylinder separately should help.
 
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