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For $20 +shipping, why not give them a try (without permanently mounting the array)?

From the looks of them though, you might have to lengthen the wire leads in order to get the LED array up near the tail light lens.
 

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epx666 said:
I was checking out some of the Superbright LED products and I came across this stuff..

http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-bin/store/commerce.cgi?product=OTHER

Specifically the 1157-PCB-R36 Red LED lamp board. Anyone check into these before? Seems like a much better deal than the $150 set you can buy for the Duc on some random website.
I don't know about the lamp board, but I've ordered some other bulbs for my car before and they work just fine. Good service too.
 

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Now, anything I say may be considered BS because I make LED products... however, I ride, you ride, we all ride and I'm about helping others out wher ever and when ever I can. I've been designing and making LED lights for motorcycles for a few years now... certainly enough to be able to spot a turd. Take my comments as you wish, but I'd rather see a fellow rider getting what he needs, whether I can supply it or not.

That being said... those "LED bulbs" and boards on that web page are crap. Spend the money on some cheeseburgers, you'll be glad you did.

There are really no free lunches when it comes to LEDs. All the cheap-ass products on the market make you think so, but they are all just crap. IIRC, a replacement LED taillight for a Cadillac costs over $500... there's a reason for that, just like there's a reason the my LED board cost over $200... high quality parts, design, and especially, the LEDs.

LEDs come in about as many different shapes, sizes, brightness levels, etc. as regular light bulbs... but no one tells you that... all they say is "WOOO! Brighter than bulbs! Lasts longer! Ultra Bright! High Intensity! God save the queen, you NEED these LEDs or you will DIE". Good LED lights cost more money, because the parts and engineering cost more money.

If you go some where looking at LED lights and you see "LEDs are brighter than bulbs" run, don't walk... LEDs are not brighter than the bulbs you would assume they are intended to replace. A properly designed LED array can very well be brighter than the bulbs that they are intended to replace, but not very many places make them because they are having crap mass-produced overseas, keeping their costs way down, and making a buck on the "miracle of LED lighting"

Remember too, it's not how many LEDs, not how bright each LED is, nor what viewing angle the LEDs are... it is a combination of all of these properties (ans a few other that matter a bit less) that makes a killer light.

Educate yourself, make a smart purchase, perhaps keep your ass from getting run over by some soccer mom on a cell phone while you're stopped at a light.

Digest how you seem fit.........................
 

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amullo said:
Hey dude..

What would you say about these lights? I know Rainman likes them and all, but i figured i´d get the low-down from someone in the business.
http://www.customled.com/PRODUCTS/I...95_996_998_748/ducati_916_995_996_998_748.htm

I already have a load equilizer since I´m running LED front turn signals (Life-brite´s integrated in the mirrors)
They're ok... custom fit, yes, high quality LEDs... well... they make the integrated signal lights for/with Clear Alternatives, and, uhhh, yeah... they're ok.

I'd be more than willing to put my 998/748 light up against theirs. :)
 

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I'd be more than willing to put my 998/748 light up against theirs. :)
Really?! I didn´t know you made one. :eek:

There wasn´t any info about it on your homepage, but i seem to remember that you put a ""feeler"" up in the old forum for people willing to test it.

Does it incorporate the same sort of turnsignals as the one they make?
Cost?
 

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Really?! I didn´t know you made one. :eek:

There wasn´t any info about it on your homepage, but i seem to remember that you put a ""feeler"" up in the old forum for people willing to test it.

Does it incorporate the same sort of turnsignals as the one they make?
Cost?

Right now it is all red, but split into two independent sides for use with a taillight integrator. I had experimented with the built in amber signals and I didn't really like the results. I'm also not a big fan of turning off red LEDs (run/brake light) to make the amber LEDs more visible... the red seems just a bit more important to me and too much flashing on and off of colors would just confuse the crap out of some imbecille in a cage.

I have since worked out a secondary reflector/optic that really helps the light output, so I may have to revisit the amber signal idea again.

I really have to get on the web guys ass to put the Monster and 998/748 kits up there.

Anyone have an extra day each week they can sell me? :D
 

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How does your LED´s work? Are they running through a resistor of a specific Ohm to cut the light when in running light and bypass the resistor when braking OR are there seperate LED´s?

I´d like the option of having amber turnsignals, because in Sweden, I´m not allowed to use red turnsignals. I´m not allowed to have the turnsignals that close together either, BUT since no cars in Sweden have red turnsignals the cage drivers aren´t used to them.

That means (to me) that running red turnsignals (even very bright ones) are gonna confuse the driver behind me more then lower intensity yellow/amber signals.

And most cagedrivers would probably know that if your gonna turn (IE: having your turnsignal on) will almost certainly mean that your gonna slow down.

Is it possible to run a "dual-color" LED? I´m guessing that these doen´t have the some light output as the "bright" reds your using, but maybe it´s possible to only replace some of the reds with duals and run the "bright" Leds for running and braking and the duals for running and turnsignal.. Just trying out some thinking here.. not trying to tell you what to do. As I´ve said before, i don´t know enough about this stuff to be discussing it at your level.

One thing that i AM considering is modifying the rear reflex (the square piece under the taillight) and incorporate an additional 5 or 6 superbright red LED´s to act as brakelights together with the "normal" taillights.
 

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Gotta agree with Dr. Scum.

I'm not an expert but having been around LED's for a while, I know that not all LED's are the same. Just a quick look thru a Digikey or Newark catalog and you'll see what I mean.

A quality LED light would probably have uniform intensity LED's, quality resistors, soldering performed to some kind of specification, etc....
 

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What type of LED's do your use? What do you think of Luxeon or Lumamax? Are they from the same supplier? I will purchase one of your brake lights for my 749 once I can afford it.:eek: Been on my list for awhile now.
 

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What type of LED's do your use? What do you think of Luxeon or Lumamax? Are they from the same supplier? I will purchase one of your brake lights for my 749 once I can afford it.:eek: Been on my list for awhile now.

I use the square "high flux" type LEDs... and anyone who says that these LEDs are unsuitable for taillights is blowing smoke up your butt... look inside any automotive LED taillight or OEM motorcycle LED taillight and that's what you will find.

Luxeons are pretty killer... though I find them to not be the most suitable for retrofitting taillights. And oh my, they can get HOT! Lumamax (AFIK) are flashlights that use Luxeon LEDs... that is a perfect application for them.





I wonder how much interest a group buy would generate?
 

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I´d also join in on a group buy.
 

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Yupp!

I´m in. That´s one..

Perhaps we should start another thread for that..
 

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998 tail lights.

DrHeathenScum said:
10 sound like a fair number?
What happened to those 998 tail lights you said you were gonna make? :(
 
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