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Stiff Clutch... new slave or remove springs?

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So with dry clutches being typically heavier than their wet counterparts, what's the typical/recommended way to make the lever pull easier on the hand? I've read that upgrading the slave cylinder should reduce the stiffness by about 20-30%, but others just say to remove 2 springs from the clutch. If you're running a 1000desmo engine, does removing springs result in any clutch slippage? Anywho, just curious about people's opinions on this...
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I, personally would not remove clutch springs...especially 2. If your going to remove them, remove 3...that way the pressure is evenly distributed across the pressure plate.

I have seen bigger slave cylinders available that will drop the pull by 30%...this is the route I would take.

The only other solution is to get one of the grip exercisers from the 80's and go to town. I'm sure Popeye thinks the desmo clutch is might easy!

hope it helps.

-phreek
 

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This is the same motor as the Multistrada. Yes the clutch pull is tough especially around town it will wear on you. My first decent ride in 04 had my hand cramp up when i went to take my glove off. Muthafer!
I since have changed out to a Evilution slave cylinder and keep a squeeze ball at my desk to build up wrist strength. I was spoiled for years by my Triumph wet clutch.
 

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hehe... aside from working out your left hand, would you say its a significant difference with the Evo slave? Also, if someone went the 'removing clutch springs' route, can you post a DIY guide?
 

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hehe... aside from working out your left hand, would you say its a significant difference with the Evo slave? Also, if someone went the 'removing clutch springs' route, can you post a DIY guide?
The Evo slave seems to have helped. Also forgot to mention this was followed up a few months later with new Speedy Moto clutch bits. A slight improvement felt there also.
Your probably wanting to get rid of that chrome clutch cover anyway :)

I would seriously not alter any springs.
 

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Lots of people out there have changed to a four spring set up on their pressure plates with no ill effects. There are companies out there that sell four spring slipper clutch set ups. I haven't ridden a bike with a four spring set up so I can't offer any comments on how they feel.

If you swap your slave cylinder out, you will have to choose between a 28mm or 30mm model. The 28mm will reduce lever effort by about 20% and will have a longer throw, that is, it will move the pressure plate further than the 30mm unit will. The 30mm unit should reduce effort more than does the 28mm model, but the throw will be shorter. I prefer the 28mm model.

If you go with the newest Brembo adjustable billet master cylinder, you'll be floored by how light the clutch pull will feel. going this route will probably set you back about $550-$600, but you'd have one slick feeling clutch and the improvement in the ability to modulate clutch engagement will blow you away even more than will the reduction in effort at the lever.
 

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The clutch pull is something people think about at first and then kinda forget it. I have an evo slave and it works fine. Is the pull any easier? Dunno, it felt very similar. Maybe slightly. Most of my buddies do not have this done, and their clutch feels similar. I wouldn't remove springs. Plus, you need to get some bling around that clutch. If you have a dry clutch, people should see it.
 

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I just bought an Oberon 28mm slave and have yet to install, will let you know results hopefully after weekend.
Some have said that some after market spring sets are lighter than the stock.
Have heard someone say that you do not have to tighten the springs to full compression and this will lighten feel at lever. He claimed even with just a quarter of the thread in on the bolt would not come undone because of spring pressure. Not sure I'd trust that but it might be better than having uneven pressure on plate by removing springs.
 
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