Sport Classic 2 Piston front Calipers

SScowboy said:

I was a little sceptical the first time I saw a sport 1000 and noticed the brake configuration. I am now convinced they are better than the 4 pot calipers on my SS. They have just as good of feel, they bite HARD, and they DON"T friggin chatter at 3 mph ......that drives me nuts about some 4 pot brembo floaters!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Are you sure? Some folks think the Sport 1000 brakes are "wimpy".

It's like prejudging wine or audio equipment based on the label.

Saying, "Oh, it's only a 2-piston caliper? How sad for you", without having ridden one. Works fine for me!

Reducs said:

It's like prejudging wine or audio equipment based on the label.

Saying, "Oh, it's only a 2-piston caliper? How sad for you", without having ridden one. Works fine for me!

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They work fine for me too!

OK guys, I only said I was sceptical. That is not prejudging. I bought the bike, right? I would not have bought a bike if I had prejudged the brakes to be incompetent. I have a SS with 4 piston with 2 pistons on each side and I saw the 2 piston with no opposing piston and thought to myself that this non opposed 2 piston system would be a step back in technology from what little I know about brakes. Then I witnessed just how good they really are and was supprised.

I never expected them to be less than really good brakes, I just didn't expect them to be this good. That being said, there are better brakes out there.

SScowboy said:

OK guys, I only said I was sceptical. That is not prejudging. I bought the bike, right? I would not have bought a bike if I had prejudged the brakes to be incompetent. I have a SS with 4 piston with 2 pistons on each side and I saw the 2 piston with no opposing piston and thought to myself that this non opposed 2 piston system would be a step back in technology from what little I know about brakes. Then I witnessed just how good they really are and was supprised.

I never expected them to be less than really good brakes, I just didn't expect them to be this good. That being said, there are better brakes out there.

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I was just giving you a hard time. In an earlier thread someone made the comment that they were really wimpy brakes. I don't think they are. They work fine for me.

I am in total agreement on the brakes as well. I thought we were going to be seing 4pistons, but the reason for the deuce is because of the spokes. They dont have the clearance to run the 4pistons.....thats what the report said, anyway.

I knew going in the the Sportclassics would have the 2-piston calipers, and I was concerned about it. But in the real world the stopping power is just fine.
That being said, the feel of the Sportclassic brakes leaves something to be desired.

Compared to my '95 SS/SP (only other Duc I've owned), the Sport 1000 brakes are a step backwards. I find the initial bite too strong and the force required a little high. The SS/SP has much better modulation in my opinion, and is more linear.

I've had the techs at the dealer check into what it would take to upgrade to 4-piston calipers and floating rotors. We've actually bolted up 4-piston calipers and they clear the spokes, but the rotors need a different offset. They've promised to continue researching for a solution and as soon as they have one, I'll try it out ( and post the results).

Duc2v

Yesterday at a Ducati dealership I saw a yellow Sport1000 fitted with Superbike brakes up front. Looked very cool.

I didn't have a camera with me, but I might head back up there next weekend, and if I do I'll get some pics and post them.

I would like to see a picture of it also.

I did try to install as set of Brembo Gold calipers and there was at least 10mm too much caliper interferrence with the spokes

I don't know how they could of used different off set rotors and had enough clearence. Perhaps the 4 pad calipers are more narrow as well. :think:

As for the performance of the 2 piston calipers, they feel just like the Gold Brembo calipers in braking performance thus far. I was worried that they would be terrible like my wife's 2005 S2R but thankfully they have larger calipers and rotors.

Mike

MH900e0652 said:

Yesterday at a Ducati dealership I saw a yellow Sport1000 fitted with Superbike brakes up front. Looked very cool.

I didn't have a camera with me, but I might head back up there next weekend, and if I do I'll get some pics and post them.

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MH900e0652 said:

Yesterday at a Ducati dealership I saw a yellow Sport1000 fitted with Superbike brakes up front. Looked very cool.

I didn't have a camera with me, but I might head back up there next weekend, and if I do I'll get some pics and post them.

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If you get back there, would you mind asking them what calipers and rotors they used? Just knowing what model they came from would be great. (Part numbers would be awesome, but it might be asking too much...)

thank you,
bill

I'll definitely get some more information, and photos for the board, but unfortunately it won't be this weekend. I ordered some parts, and the shop called me yesterday and said at least two more weeks. (Shop is 65 miles away)

This past Saturday when I was talking to the Tech, I wanted to pimp him with some more questions, but he was super busy. He did say the SBK calipers had to have a "small amount of machining to clear the spokes".

Ciao

MH900e0652 said:

(Shop is 65 miles away)

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I hate riding my motorcycle that I waited oh so long for! Especially a good ...say... 130 mile one. It's better at home collecting dust. ...j/k

bassphreek said:

I hate riding my motorcycle that I waited oh so long for! Especially a good ...say... 130 mile one. It's better at home collecting dust. ...j/k

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A high temperature of 36 F. today, with 6 inches of snow on the way. Riding season, or at least my riding season in this region doesn't start for another 6 weeks. You Cali riders have all the fun.

mhe652 said:

A high temperature of 36 F. today, with 6 inches of snow on the way. Riding season, or at least my riding season in this region doesn't start for another 6 weeks. You Cali riders have all the fun.

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Cali shmali....I'm an east coast boy. I've put on more than 800 miles since her arrival here in New Jersey in December. Snow, however is a different story. I was just bustin on ya about the riding. Don't worry, when it melts....the ride is good! I'll put a few miles on for ya this weekend. Cheers!

The weather this winter in Northern California has been a wet one Everytime there is a break from the storms, another one rolls in. The roads never get a chance to dry out. I have had my bike in the garage wanting to be riden and only have just over 100 miles on her since December

Wait, wait, I see this Saturday is supposed to be clear :yeah:


Mike

mhe652 said:

A high temperature of 36 F. today, with 6 inches of snow on the way. Riding season, or at least my riding season in this region doesn't start for another 6 weeks. You Cali riders have all the fun.

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MH900e0652 said:

I'll definitely get some more information, and photos for the board, but unfortunately it won't be this weekend. I ordered some parts, and the shop called me yesterday and said at least two more weeks. (Shop is 65 miles away)

This past Saturday when I was talking to the Tech, I wanted to pimp him with some more questions, but he was super busy. He did say the SBK calipers had to have a "small amount of machining to clear the spokes".

Ciao

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If you want to see photos of SBK calipers on a PaulSmart1080LE, there are some on the Yahoo! Group for Ducati-SportClassics. Look for photos posted by DWright PS1080LE.

He's done some really cool things to his PS1080LE besides the SBK brakes, to include black anodized front forks, and increased displacement. His latest post on Yahoo! includes dyno results from the "enhanced" engine.

I had a opportunity to listen to the bike when the technician at CorseSuperbikes was heat cycling the engine with the new pistons. I've always felt a Ducati with a dry clutch deserves an open clutch cover, but after listening to the sweet exhaust note (2-1 Termi) this bike was producing, imo he should run a closed cover so as not to distract from the exhaust sounds. I have never heard a sweeter exhaust note on a street bike. It was pure music!

Anyone looked into (the slim) Harrison calipers yet? See more at http://www.billet.co.uk/ If the mounting holes on the SportClassics are 40mm, these calipers should be a plug & play option. Hmmmm .... changing 2x 2-pot to 2x 6-pot. Years ago, I had accomplished serious stopping power with just one 4-pot Harrison caliper on my (heavily modified) Sportster. Glad I took the advice to not mount 2

RonB

If any of you guys decide to, or already have upgraded your brakes, I'm looking for a set of the 2-pots. Got a project bike I need them for. Nothin like you've seen yet I can assure you. Just need some donor calipers.

I've posted in the classifieds as well....

Mhe225 said:

Anyone looked into (the slim) Harrison calipers yet? See more at http://www.billet.co.uk/ If the mounting holes on the SportClassics are 40mm, these calipers should be a plug & play option. Hmmmm .... changing 2x 2-pot to 2x 6-pot. Years ago, I had accomplished serious stopping power with just one 4-pot Harrison caliper on my (heavily modified) Sportster. Glad I took the advice to not mount 2

RonB

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I used to run the harrison billets on my old FZR1000 (1988 vintage) and they were a little short on modulation, if fact I had a couple of occassions where they acted like the proverbial on/off switch resulting in front end lock-ups .
This was a long time ago and the design has no doubt been tweaked over the years , mine were pretty close to 1st issue 6 pots , but power is nothing without control