I found that just reducing the viscosity of the fork oil from 7.5 to 5.0 made an enormous difference.You don't have to go all out with Öhlins stuff to noticeably improve your suspension. The stock setup is so unbalanced that even springs alone make a huge difference. Most people also never service their rear shock, and after 20 plus years it would be a miracle if the dampers still worked properly.
I did racetech gold valves and springs, in the front and back. The front can be done in any reasonably well equipped home workshop, the rear I chose to send away. Total cost was less than any aftermarket shock I could find, let alone öhlins. The bike is noticeably better to ride anywhere, and totally transformed on a twisty road
lol... given your name "old rider" that is/was the classic modification done with damper rod forks back in the day. It still can work just fine and if the setup works for you then there is no harm . Where it is/was an issue is changing to a lighter oil means less dampening in both directions (rebound and compression) which often are at odds with each other.I found that just reducing the viscosity of the fork oil from 7.5 to 5.0 made an enormous difference.
As standard, IMHO, the forks are way too harsh on these bikes...
https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/g2-throttle-tamerIntriguing. What does a throttle tamer contribute to making a bike run smoothly ?
The ignitech was the best mod I did to improve low rpm rideability. Especially if you still have the stock carbs. I would recommend it as the first engine mod to do.Still thinking about an Ignitech anyway.
It's not that expensive (As I'm living in Europe, I can have it shipped from Ignitech for around €150).
And I once was on a dutch Ducati forum and read some great reviews about Ignitech there.
I don't expect miracles from the thing but just thinking about the theory behind it, it may be a good investment I hope.
I keep you posted if I should buy one.
The ignitech was the best mod I did to improve low rpm rideability. Especially if you still have the stock carbs. I would recommend it as the first engine mod to do.
Best mod ever <> save your moneyDucvet said:I would modify your game plan.
1. Save the money on the coils,pickups and ignitec
2. put on the 14 tooth front sprocket
3. keep an eye out all summer for a set of good used keihins
My reason being you can do the sprocket cheap and rewards are noticeable. I love the ignitec units but I also have no issues with kokosan in fact All of my personal bikes have 100% stock ignitions even though I can buy aftermarket at cost and have a ignitec setting in the top of my tool box. I have not seen most bikes through my shop benefiting from changing these components.
Love it this way.Since this thread twists and turns,....
Key part there isI have not seen most bikes through my shop benefiting from changing these components.
There may be a great improvement but it has never been noticed or desired based on what people had the bikes in the shop for. Maybe the bike in question is abnormally rough at low rpms or maybe the rpms are abnormally low or even the owner being abnormally sensitive to a rough bike. All are somewhat subjective and hard to know from a internet post.I have not seen
I have been driving 2 stroke dirt bikes since I was 10 years old so I know what you mean.Go ride a 2 stroke dirtbike for a week, it won't be an issue!
Even in that case I think it's cheaper for me buying an Ignitech instead of buying you a return-ticket to Belgium. ;-)Maybe I am lucky that the bikes I see are all abnormally smooth due to my special tuning ability:grin2:
Most Ignitech ignition curves that I've seen are rather the same as the Kokusans in the higher rpm-range. So for track bikes I think the main reason for using Ignitech is, as you said, the price and the ease of use.Low rpm smoothness is not a common complaint I hear so I do not want to mislead readers to think it can not be improved with a ignitec etc just that it has not been attempted. most ignitec's I deal with are straight to the track and are used to be a cheaper/easier alternative to kokosan boxes. maybe someday I will experiment with trying to make a bike as smooth as I can at lower rpms that I normally do.
Until these things were mentioned in this thread, I've never heard of throttle tamers.Do they make throttle tamers for carby bikes too?
I have customers who have them and like them it is just upside down to me as we always used to want a faster throttle.
No, I know exactly what you mean, just having some fun. This is actually my first carbed bike in quite a long time. They definitely have a character all their own. If you want the smoothest ride the ultimate answer is to go with fuel injection over carbs, that gives you a level of control and tuning that's hard to match with carbs (but can be done by a real pro).I have been driving 2 stroke dirt bikes since I was 10 years old so I know what you mean.
But that's not an argument to stop me in my search for a as-smooth-as-possible-ride-with-a-2-valve-Ducati.
It's not because there are bikes that are even worse at low revs that I should be happy with the way mine is at low revs.
If there is no way to make the bike run smoother at low revs, it's not a big deal to me. I'm not gonna sell the bike in that case.
But just asking doesn't hurt anybody so...