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Does anybody use or recommend radar detectors? Just got back from a ride that could have turned out much worse than it did. We were all given warnings for 74 in a 55 he said there was no way to prove which of us or if all of us were speeding. We were rounding a sweeping corner and unmarked trooper was in oncoming lane and he said he clocked us. I don't believe him and he admitted it wouldn't hold up in court hence the warning. Do radar detectors help or work as well as they claim or are they a waste of money?
 

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I've been using Escort products since 1981 on my motorcycles. I have had it on top of my map case of a tank bag. Wire comes up betwen the seat/tank to a plug/jack. I've had a "battery harness" like this for multiple bikes, so that the tank bag can be used ocross my fleet.

Yes, they WORK. I was doing close to 100mph today on the exp.way, and bang, instant on. Cop was shooting from the median, and I was just cresting a hill. Not sure how he saw me, but I grabbed a handfull of Brembo, and had my beas back to 70 in no time. He never came out. Usually, it's more of a notice, when they're sampling somebody else.

Escort products come with a ear ph. jack, and each of the 4 bands have their unique tones. The sound is the most important thing that comes out of these units, so I make sure to plug in an ear phone, and shove it up near one ear. The source distance is discernable because the repetition rate of the blips become more and more continuous tones the closer you get to the source (like a geiger counter).

So lately, I run an Escort 8500. another plus to this model is that when it's not receiving, you can have it in the VOLTMETER mode. Very helpful with our DUCS.
 

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you can pry my x-50 out of my cold dead hands!

screamer on the duc and helmet speakers for the vfr(different helmets).

i am eyeing the excort 9500i... soon.
 

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I have a Valentine 1 I switch between my cars an bike.....save my ass more times than I can think ......payed for itself in leass than 6 months!
 

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Cool, keep the info coming! Looks like I'll be getting something soon. What about the radar jamming feature I've been told about, another option worth the money?
 

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Radar jamming is illegal under FCC regulations. Broadcasting on frequencies reserved for licensed use (necessary for jamming those frequencies) is a very significant fine - like four digit significant. Laser jamming is legal in some states, but not all. Even radar/laser detectors are illegal in some states. Usually, however, the fine for being caught with one is far less than a speeding violation, and will not go on your driving record. Plus, police generally cannot confiscate the unit. In other words, you get a far lower fine and get to keep your detector.

I've run a V1 for years. Mike Valentine is on a personal mission, and approaches this issue with a passion. He will continue to upgrade your unit as long as you own it, so it never gets "obsolete". It picks up radar and laser and gives you an indication of which direction it's coming from. Its only disadvantage on a bike is that it's not waterproof. I guess mounting it can be a hassle as well, since it isn't a "bike specific" unit.

I won't leave home without mine, either on my 900 SS or in my old 911. The thing has saved my ass more times than I'll admit in public... sometimes several times a day...
 

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i have thought about trying to waterproof my x50. the other day the speaker broke(i also use it in my cage) so i took her apart to fix the speaker. there was pieces of bugs and a bunch of crap in there! but the speaker was an easy fix:)

i figure sealing all the seams with silicon or some sort of similar sealant might help. but hey, she still works...
 

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How about some pictures of installations/mounting?
 

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I mounted my V1 on the left side of the bike, making a mount from some aluminum sheet cut to fit the triangulated part of the trellis just under the lower left side of the tank. I drilled several holes along each edge of the aluminum sheet and zip-tied it to the frame tubes using those holes. I used some velcro tape to hold the V1 to the mount so I could change it back and forth between the car and the bike.

I have a little splitter terminal (available from Valentine) zip-tied to the upper frame tube just ahead of the V1 mount. This splitter it hard wired to the battery and a remote display mounted under the windshield, and I spliced into the remote display to run an earpiece that I wear under my helmet.

This position is kind of a compromise in that it will not pick up laser. Laser is line-of-site, and the front of the detector has to be exposed to "see" incoming laser. It does pick up radar quite well, so at this point, I'm settling for that. Laser warnings are more or less just an advance warning of a ticket anyway...

Here are some photos of my mounting set-up. Kind of a work in progress, I'm mulling and playing with different options. Anyway, here you go:
 

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Well jeez Higgy, I knew you would have a well thought our set-up. Looks good, especially having a clear line of sight indicator.

The only downside from my perspective...I have three bikes I will need this on, 4 if you count the r100. The Bonneville is definitly not a road warrior at this point in it's life. For the 955, 900, and r100 something that clipped a detector or indicator to the inside of the fairing windscreen, right below the top, would be just about ideal. For the r1150r and the 900SS I could use a handlebar mount. Which is where I would probably start, since those two bikes are ridden most.
 

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i use a cordless escort and it works great. $465 but has probably saved me that much in the last year. suction cups right up to wind screen. i plug a wireless blue tooth dongle to the ear phone jack and it transmits wirelessly to my chatter box xbi headset in my helmet. it was hard to swallow spending that much money on a radar detector but every time it saves me i get a great big grin on my face. :D
 

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Well jeez Higgy, I knew you would have a well thought our set-up. Looks good, especially having a clear line of sight indicator.

The only downside from my perspective...I have three bikes I will need this on, 4 if you count the r100. The Bonneville is definitly not a road warrior at this point in it's life. For the 955, 900, and r100 something that clipped a detector or indicator to the inside of the fairing windscreen, right below the top, would be just about ideal. For the r1150r and the 900SS I could use a handlebar mount. Which is where I would probably start, since those two bikes are ridden most.
The line-of-sight indicator works great, once you hear the audible warning. That part is critical - the audible warning. Even as high up as my remote display is mounted, it really does not get my attention all on its own. If I'm looking far enough ahead to be riding properly, it is barely in my lower peripheral vision. It's amazing how focused on that road ahead we get when traveling at such a pace that we need a detector. So, it's a package deal - the audible says "something is there" and the display tells you what and where. You really do need both.

Simple suction cups as described by jdg123 above work great, if your bike actually has a windshield. I just use the car windshield style suction cup mount on my Road King, and it works great. My "windshield" on the 900 SS is now carbon fiber, though, so a detector cannot "see" through it. I did play around with a mount up under there anyway (similar to my remote display), but the full size V1 blocks both instruments from view when it's mounted up there.

Once you cough up for the main unit, the additional mounts and wiring accessories for these things are pretty darn cheap in comparison. That's nice, because it makes it so easy to plug'n'play the expensive part back and forth across several machines.
 

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My V1 Set-up

This is my set-up which works well for me. The mount is from Stem Stand which I think may have been bought out by Tech-mount. I found it in the store at Deals Gap a few years ago. The tank bag is an RKA & I got the tankbag power kit from Powerlet Products. The V1 is off-set to the right a little so my body isn't completely blocking the rearward facing antenna. The remote audio adaptor you have to get from V1 so you can get the sound to your ears. That's whats taped to the top of the V1. I use the Mix-it amplifier to integrate my I-Pod & V1 & I have WAY more volume than I need. The thing on top of my tankbag is the remote control for the I-Pod. When it rains, I just slip a Zip-loc baggy over the V1 (the kind with the little sliding zipper thingy on it works best) & keep on rollin'. I keep perfecting it little by little but I'm pretty content with it now. Here's some pics. Just today it saved me 3 times in 200 miles!
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How well do detectors work thru very dark windscreens? Whether I mount it on my tank bag or onto my fairing supports it will still be positioned behind my dark Zero Gravity.
 

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This was a particularly tasty install on an ST that I remember from a couple years ago. The advantage was it's forward placement on the dash, effectively protected from the weather.
 

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The Switch

Well all of them are good! But if the Cop has the switch off until you get in his space to flip it on and then your Busted.........

I've had the best that money can buy but they don't work if he has a switch that they can flip on and off and this state of Michigan the State Police do just that so money can buy the best but they all don't work when he flips his switch.

I now own a $100 Cobra that keeps me out of trouble, well it keeps me in the speed I need to be and when at the Track I take it off and have some fun! And I don't think about getting those $200 tickets anymore.
 

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i have had my x50 beeping intermittently miles before seeing a cop. a detector isnt an end all for speeding tickets, but a very, very valuable tool for preventing them. if your just speeding and expecting your detector to save you, your not going to have alot of success. if it is one of many tools you use, then you will feel naked without it.

after awhile, some little beeps just sound like falses, while others get those spidy senses tingling. :D
 

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pics of my bungie job and screamer speaker install...

i have a slipstreamer bar mount in the mail... hope she fits!!!
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the speaker is that little black round thing inside the front fairing. i used some rubber tape on the top of the cluster to prevent any chafing, but it sure is hard to hide the wiring on these things!!! the wiring in the vfr was a piece of cake to hide in comparism.




 

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Thanks to Kensteele for the link, that's way more info than I'll ever need. Those guys are really into this radar thing. Good points Curveman99, that has to be how we got it if he even clocked us at all. We were coming out of a curve while he was heading towards us coming out of another turn. We couldn't have been in his sight for more than a couple seconds and I doubt he was traveling with his radar on contiuously. He was driving a sweet unmarked Dodge Challenger and was really decent with us. I've been driving for over 25 years and have never gotten a speeding ticket yet so I must be doing something right. My plan is to add a wireless Escort to my defenses and try to keep alert. Taking it to a track would be the best decision but for everyday riding it's nearly impossible to stay at or under the speed limit on these back country roads. I may change my tune after a ticket though. haha
 
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