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Morning/afternoon/evening gents (that's gotta be all time zones covered)

Well I'm back to ducati after a short break and looking at buying a hyper. I rode the 848sf vs 1098sfs vs the Hyper evo (standard demo bike) and although I loved the 1098sfs I must admit the hyper was stupid fun and on roads I didn't know after never riding this style of bike before it was ridiculously confidence inspiring and felt like I'd been riding it for months, you just whack it in to a corner and round you go. Honestly I was pissing myself laughing in my helmet at times and thought it was bonkers, after considering the fact I'll still have a perfectly capable warp speed sportsbike in the garage for my track days/different mood days I can't see me having more fun on the SF series (I may be wrong)? I don't commute so whenever I use my bike it's either track days, weekend/evening blasts or short trips over to Europe (a couple a year usually, the Ring and somewhere else)

Just put my deposit down on a mint 2010 red evo sp which has a full 2-1 termi, 6.4 gallon , DP comfort seat and a DP open clutch (my first dry clutch so watch this space for questions). included is all the stock stuff so that's a bonus and even though it's done 8000miles after reading the high mileage thread I don't think I need worry, it's had it's servicing done all from the same dealer it was purchased from originally with the last being at 7400miles so will assume that's the 7500 done.

The good thing is as you can tell its got a fair chunk of stuff added already, the bad thing is after reading loads of older threads until my eyes hurt it seems there's still a long long way to go :)

You'll have to bare with me here as I've read stuff but obviously could of missed something but I'll try not to ask too many noob questions just yet although if I could at least start with the exhuast, tank, screen and seat it'd be great!

So, the termi.... I still think it looks too long, I've got a guy who manufactures exhausts so I might get him to look at shortening it by just a couple of inch and then polishing up the pipe work, I've seen the mini termi video on YouTube and don't think I'll go that short but somewhere in between. Question is will that effect the mapping or is it likely to be negligible as I suspect? noise I don't mind by the way , loud pipes save lives after all ;)

Then theres this 6.4 gallon tank.

I'll be honest and say initially I wasn't looking for a bike with this as the 80mile range didn't bother me personally although it'll come in handy this sept when we ride over to Amsterdam and then later down the coast of France to Normandy beaches etc.
However after reading threads of the air box removal for the pods and low end torque loss is there anything I can do about that? I appreciate again it's negligible but would a drop to a 14t give back that lower end drive and compensate for the torque loss a bit? What else is available to bring some of that back as from what I've read stacks (need to learn what they are) aren't an option due to room unless you guys have done a work round? How about a straight forward ecu dyno custom map or even a pcv (if they work on the hypers low down rev range)

I've done loads of trips before in Europe starting way back on a monster S2r, then on my 848 and since then on my RC8 and more recently this year another trip to the Ring on my Blade (which I'm keeping) so I'm used to distance riding on all manner of stuff but I guess with the hyper it'll be a bit windier so may need a screen especially as I'm 6ft 3" (half the reason why I think I find the hyper comfy).

So in that respect is the fabbri regarded as the best option or have the DP ones stopped cracking now as I read they used to do?
I'm pretty aware that the wind will kick in circa 100mph but this bunch I'm going with in September aren't exactly fast riders so maybe it'll teach me to stay with them (last year me and my mate left them on the blades as they were dawdling somewhat)

Then finally we get to the seat. Whilst it looks nice on the bike I 'think' I read that it's much lower than stock and brings you in to the tank more?

If that's the case it's probably no good for me so to start with I'll put the stock evo seat on. I read somewhere these newer evo seats are meant to be more comfortable after a redesign, is that true or marketing bullshit?

If the latter I guess the Sargent is the way to go is it? I did have a Sargent on my 848 for a while which was comfy but it was hard to hang off the bike as it was lower in the middle and sliding your cheek off for corners was harder. is that an issue on the hypers or dosnt it matter that much with the higher seat position? I think I'd still ride 'knee out' style, I guess learning motard would be hard work now after years of sports bikes, I'm just concerned the Sargent might pin me in position too much.

Again sorry if it's another round of the same old noob stuff but I'm pretty confident soon enough I'll blend in nicely, thanks for having me on board and let the modding commence!

I believe the hype :)
 

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Were all Tards in one way or another. Welcome.

ps: i'll read your ramble when I get back home :p
 

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Have a upholster work on you seat save $$$ and get some custom softer foam installed .Everyone likes something different
enjoy
 

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Welcome to the Tard world!!
I have the comfort seat, although it is much confier than the stock I liked the position of the stock better, kept me over the bars a little more. But it was way too uncomfortable.
Riding motar style is not necessary, I think the majority ride knee out....
My 2 cent....
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Thanks guys, gotta say I'm really looking forward to the idea of something so much fun in comparison to having to race the blade around to make that interesting

Loving some of the mods too :)
 

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Morning/afternoon/evening gents (that's gotta be all time zones covered)However after reading threads of the air box removal for the pods and low end torque loss is there anything I can do about that? I appreciate again it's negligible but would a drop to a 14t give back that lower end drive and compensate for the torque loss a bit? What else is available to bring some of that back as from what I've read stacks (need to learn what they are) aren't an option due to room unless you guys have done a work round? How about a straight forward ecu dyno custom map or even a pcv (if they work on the hypers low down rev range)
If you have stock fuel tank, put it back on with DUCSHOP pod kit. You can be your own judge. If you don't like one of the two options, then sell the other in the classifieds.

DUCSHOP stacks, and the long range tank will sell quickly IMHO.

I think you'll keep the smaller tank and the ducshop stacks. It's ridiculous and I would never go another route.
 

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I'd say from what I've read about DP's gel seat, it isnt much of an improvement. Yea a bit more comfortable but essentially the same as stock. Since I live but 2 hours from Sargents factory Im probably going that route. Everyone seems to love em.
 

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If you have stock fuel tank, put it back on with DUCSHOP pod kit. You can be your own judge. If you don't like one of the two options, then sell the other in the classifieds.

DUCSHOP stacks, and the long range tank will sell quickly IMHO.

I think you'll keep the smaller tank and the ducshop stacks. It's ridiculous and I would never go another route.

Is it these you mean bud ? - DUCSHOP HYPERSTACKS from Ducshop Products

if so that kinda answers the question what stacks are :)

so stacks are pretty much pod airfilters for better airflow?
 

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I ordered the DP comport seat, I just can't dig the shape of the Sargent.
I wasn't too keen on the shape of it either(reminded me of a Harley saddle), but seeing it in person on the bike ,it looks like it belongs there , and actually ( in my friends, 3 kids (all 19 or older) and even the wife's opinion ) looks far better than the stocker.
Not to mention how much my a$$ and is thanking me :p.
 

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I've bought the California Cycleworks tank for the Pyrenees tour I'm going on in Sep (don't fancy being stuck half way up a mountain!) but really I'm thinking of installing the Waspworks PUK kit - see WASP HYPER PUK Waspworks HyperMotard Power Up Kit [HYPER PUK - HyperMotard PUK]. Having exchanged some emails with Candice at CC the mid-sized tank that will allow stacks won't be available before the end of the year, so I'll install the large one for Sep, then take it off and install the stock one with the PUK, and if a mid sized one is ever available buy that and sell the large one. All a bit of a pain, but seems to me the perfect configuration is not possible right now...
 

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Well that's the deal gone tits up :(

Did a bit of digging in to the service history of the bike today and rang the previous ducati dealers as the dealer im buying off isn't a specialist ducati dealer just generic bikes of all makes.

It now seems that the 7500mile service which we thought had been done hasn't (well not fully)

The belts need doing straight away as its 2 years old this month and the previous owner asked for them not to be done as he was selling the bike and wanted a cheaper service. Also theres something else that wasn't done at the time(cant remember what she said) it's also out of tax and needs a new set of tyres as on closer inspection they're pretty finished or will be within a few miles.

So I asked the dealer to take care of at least the servicing part within the price he's quoted as it was meant to be fully up to date but he can't/won't as he says there's not enough money in the bike for him to do it as he'd have to send it out. I rang the other Ducati dealer whos up the road and it's about £200+

So with that and tyres at £250-£300 depending what I fit it's an extra £500 minimum on top of the price we did the deal on as I have to also tax it straight away.

Well it's pissed me off a little to say the least, it's not his fault exactly but just wished he'd of done more looking in to the history and what Ducatis need within service schedules.

Now normally I'd just suck it up but frankly on a bike that's got 8300+ miles on we did the deal based on the fact it was high mileage for the money he was asking, now it's just adding all the money he dropped off the bike back in and a bit more especially as I'm not that bothered about the big tank so it has no real worth to me.

Think I'll let it go and wait for another Evo SP to turn up, they're like rocking horse shit though 2nd hand, I've see a couple of white ones but I'd prefer the red if I'm honest so would rather wait.

So with that said I'm going shopping this weekend for another Ducati, hopefully this time I'll find a deal that stacks up.

What about (older) S models? Are they really that different in ride compared to the evo's? all I've managed to try is the evo as that's what's on demo but they don't look that different and I'd bling it up anyway so would look different pretty quick I guess.


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Too bad about the deal, but it seems good to take a step back, sounds like you made a good call. I haven't ridden the Evo sp yet, maybe one day I'll bump into somebody who fancies a ride on mine and I'll get to try it. What is nice about the 08 models is they are a known entity, as in everything that can go wrong and can be improved on is known to us. Most info is available on this forum. The Evo's, although not new at this point really does not have the same knowledge base and aftermarket support available. On paper, the improvement in the models is small in my mind. Other's may have different opinions.
 

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To be honest I reckon for what I'd use the Hyper for (pure fun and hooning around) I'm not so sure the EVO sp would be worth it unless I get a great deal, don't get me wrong I appreciate the advancements and if I'm honest the extra height would help but there's probably a lot more decent condition 2008/2009 S models about with half the mileage on than the bike I was looking at and all about £1000 cheaper (give or take)

Think I'll just bide my time and wait for one really mint and do the mods I like.

I've seen some brilliant ones on here so I'd be changing the bike loads myself.

Oh well


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