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Well, as "luck?" Would have it, I am out of town working with lots of time in airplanes, airports, and hotels, so I am starting the write up on my Project Save the Bastard Paso. In this previous thread http://www.ducati.ms/forums/11-ducati-motorcycle-chat/460042-thoughts-possible-project-ducati.html I asked for advice on whether I should undertake this sad old Ducati Paso offered to me. I was given plenty of wise advice instructing me to run away very fast, or burn it, thanks chuckracer! :wink2:



Lord knows I do not "NEED" this project. But the more I looked at it in the garage, the cooler it started to look, (to me anyway). That and I have the coolest woman who indulges my passions and stupidity. So I pulled the trigger and picked up Il Paso. I have been working on it for some months now, in between redoing the motor in the Multi :( . So I am now posting up this little build project for the dust bunnies here in the Paso sub forum.



I realize she will never be restored, too much is missing (so purist avert your eyes). I am trying to bring it back into good condition, as a rider, when the wife or I want to have a go on something a little different. (Besides, it fits her pretty well too). Since I started writing this she now picked up a yellow monster today…apparently the important part is it’s yellow…sheez! :crazy: I also do not want to invest a fortune in what will never be worth much, but hopefully be a fun bike from time to time, and most important, a little different from everything else. Damnit this is taking forever to figure out how to resize and embed photos... At least I'm learning something new, eventhough 3rd graders can do it in their sleep ....lil Bastards :surprise:

 

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So I begun with stripping it down to the frame, the sq tube frame Ducati (at least that's rare-ish).


Since this bike was obviously tracked I was worried what I would find, how hard had she been down? Amazingly, the frame was in great condition, no indication of it sliding along a track or tacky welded repairs. I found one captive nut welded to the frame that had popped loose, but was just a shoddy factory weld. Quick tack with the TIG and good as new.
Another shocking find was every bearing, (swingarm, links, steering head) were in excellent condition adjusted a greased....that was unexpected, but a big yeah! Much to my neighbors amusement, I hung the frame from the clothesline and had some Ducati Anniversary red mixed up and then squirted the frame in the great outdoors. I really like erector set frame in red. Big improvement IMO.



Got the motor back in the frame and mocked up with the Marvic rear wheel. Even got a picture of the Ducati Power-Lifting Team who helped Dad lower the Paso off the landlord's dresser. Now, we're cooking along. Thank you Ladies!
 

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Bloody Hell, this embedding images takes forever…or I am doing it the hard way :think:

Meanwhile, back at the motor, I decided to open her up and see what was going on in there, she ran well and sounded good, even had 140 psi compression. Really I was just curious, because I was told the owner had a 900 top end in it...seemed unlikely and sure enough :rolleyes:. Stock bore, stock stroke, and factory pistons (from what I gather the earlier high compression ones). I am not even close to a Paso expert, so I am constantly looking up information on what this bike should have. Hard to find much info on them, but what you do find is often very conflicted, but all part of the experience. Bores looked great no scuffing and cross hatch still clearly visible, appears to have very few miles since it had been honed last.






Another surprise in the heads, valves all in spec and all the rockers had been resurfaced, not to mention the internals were absolutely spotless inside, no gunk or crud collecting. Tensioner bearings perfect.





For some reason the left oil cooler had been deleted, using only the single cooler. The y fittings just plugged off. Maybe it does not need 2 when tracking the bike, verses sitting in traffic idling. I believe I will locate another cooler. I can see no disadvantage to more oil cooling capability :confused:
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Clutch completely shot and slipping on the test ride miserably. Was tough tracking down new disks...+ $400 from the states, but searching Italian Ebay found them for $118 in Naples. Was shipped and received in less than 48 hours! (BTW...even though you see "fits all Ducati dry clutches"...that shit ain't true)! :surprise: It's a weird clutch the way the springs are under the pressure plate and the slave built into the clutch cover....all Ducati clearly do not use the same stack height either.



The Weber carb long gone, it had these crusty 40mm Delortos, Check out the fine safety wire and springs holding it together. What about that sweet air intake scoop, looks like it was made from a beer can. :confused:



The however cleaned up very nicely. :grin2:



The cables are pretty much shot and custom made ones are pretty pricy for what you get....I'm still thinking about what route to go with them as well as the lack of air filters. There is just not much space for filters in here. I'm sure I'll locate some pods small enough, until then looks bad ass with the polished trumpets. So with the engine back together, and some serious cleaning the motor repainted. I decided to brush the fins and the belt covers (horribly hacked up) and the valve covers with a brushed aluminum finish and clear coated. I think she is starting to look the business. Somehow the brushed finish has made the hack job on the belt covers more palatable in my eyes, so for now they stay as is



The headers were not the factory 2-1-2 but a 2-1. No markings what so ever on them, but craftsmanship is very good. And after a bit of cleaning are good looking stainless steel. Not sure what to do with the muffler....it's a little rough, and I'm just not feeling it yet.
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Very cool.

Instead of the hassle of embedding the photos you should use a host site like Photobucket or similar then you can just paste the IMG links directly into the text and the pics will appear. Much easier, you just have to upload the pics to the host site.
 

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Great job and good for you bringing a Paso back to life. I would love to have one of those things made out of unobtainium :)

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Satansfist- I tried that but, I am on the road a lot and flippin IT guys make it hard to use those hosting sites….So I am stuck doing this the hard way, at least for me.

I got a bunch more pics to post up. I just need some more time. Last night I did manage to get the fuel tank ready to be epoxy coated…about 50 sheetrock screws and lots of acetone and dancing around the driveway trying to shake a bright red Fuel tank for a half hour :crazy:….I know my neighbors are certain I’m out of my f’ing mind. Surprised they let the kids come over to that “crazy dudes house”! 0:)

And it appears some Paso parts are Unobtainium. :crying:
 

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Work on the Paso has been progressing slowly, I just have not had much time to update the posts, so here is what I did last night:

I was very worried about the wiring since it has an aftermarket ignition switch and even cut off the ring around it on the top triple clamp. Then there's the fact, it has no factory dash. Just an aluminum plate with foam glued on, a tachometer and oil temp gauge. And a row of idiot lights (unlabeled). But so far aside from the dash, the original harness is intact and unmolested in good condition.



As for the instrument problems, I found this unit from Trail Tech. It has speedo, tach, odo, ambient, engine temps, shift lights, warning lights and indicators lights, all customizable. And surprisingly affordable...cheaper than trying to ebay a bunch of old Paso crap that likely doesn't work anyway. The company was helpful getting me the info I needed to ensure I could adapt it, but would not ship it to me in Italy. Kind of a pisser, but Amazon to the rescue! Cool piece of kit which I hope works as good as it sounds on paper.



I knocked out a simple Stainless bracket to incorporate the ignition switch and the new dash. The angle looks about right, but once I get the tank back on it and can sit properly I have room to put a break in the bracket and angle it upwards if needed. But so far looks like it will be just fine…I have not put any indicators lights in yet. I am almost done with rewiring the bike. Still need to sort the mess that was at the back of the dash.

 

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Great job, never thought i'd say this about that abortion of a box tubed frame but painting it red made a hell of a difference! It has long been known what that gorgeous fairing hides...
 

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Now, back to those wheels, yes somebody has fitted 17x3 front and 17x5.5 wheels to it. That is wonderful, since I can buy decent rubber (has a 1990 set of Pilot Race in soft compound now). However, the wheels are Marvic magnesium wheels, really old, and not looking so good.

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And how about that sporty homemade rear rotor?


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I contacted Marvic about refurbishment, sent some photos and they substantiated my fears, they strongly advise not to use these wheels, the corrosion potential is too high, the magnesium is far to brittle at their age and very very dangerous. So in the market for wheels, without blowing Paso budget. However this complicates things, since the sprockets and carrier appear to be proprietary and do not fit other wheels. Guess what? those cool 320mm full floating rotors and carriers, also proprietary, (definitely do not fit Ducati wheels....6 bolt 100mm verses 80mm). So now I need wheels, brakes, sprocket, carrier. :(
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Found a 900ss 17x5.5 rear with carrier and rotor off Ebay $43 shipped! :grin2: I’m on my way to rolling, and stopping. It arrived and luck was on my side, came with a brand new 38T 525 sprocket on it, (exactly what was on the Marvic wheels. SCORE!!! Found another EBAY gem, front wheel from a ST3 3.5x15 complete with rotors; looks crappy….but I looked very close on line and those sure look like 320mm floating rotors. Unfortunately this one cost $300, but I got lucky again, it was dirt and looks like came off a bike with badly leaking fork. The rotors are Spiegler 320mm full floating rotors way over min thickness and the offset spacing was correct too and fits with my calipers and spacers…


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Then off to the Bearing house with my pile of p[arts and 44 euro later all new wheel bearing for both wheels and sprocket carrier. I pulled the floating rotors apart and honed them, looking good as new.


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I am stripping down the wheels to paint them now. I was having a hard time with color, so for now instead of powder coat them I am going to go with a GOOD gloss black paint job on them. Eventually maybe I’ll pull them and powder coat them.
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Great job, never thought i'd say this about that abortion of a box tubed frame but painting it red made a hell of a difference! It has long been known what that gorgeous fairing hides...
Exactly what I was thinking. In black the frame was horrendous, but the red frame made a huge difference almost makes you not want to hide it...Starting to lean towards some sort of a partial fairing verses fully hidden...still plenty of time to ponder.:think:
 

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I'm hooked too. Looking forward to seeing your final interpretation. I was forced to rebuild mine after a madman set fire to it. I remember at the time enjoying the luxury that I could paint it any colour I wanted, and detail it with no limit of my imagination; a blank canvas. This is how mine turned out.
 

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Wow! Nicely done Paso. Very tasteful and I really like mix you used on the tank with the Champion stripe and the raised Ducati lettering. I hope mine comes close to yours. Have been gone for nearly a month working and am just getting back on it, almost done wiring it, but nothing exciting to take pictures of yet. Thanks for posting your pictures, encouragement.
 
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