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Ive been using Purlator Pure 1 filters on both my bikes. I'm picking up a MTS this next weekend and am wondering is there a Pure 1 that fits the MTS?
 

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Ducati Oil Filter Substitutes

Purolator ML16829 Black Motorcycle Oil Filter,Pack of 1 : Amazon.com : Automotive



Previously posted by Izaac:

This is a list I've compiled of filters I've found that fit. I have handled and used all of them. I use the Perf-Form and Athena. There may be others which fit (I've heard the Citroen 2A uses an identically featured filter) but have never seen it. Izaak

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K & N KN-153 (The nut on the can allows for easy removal)
Perf-Form DUC-1 (A very-well designed filter with attention to detail.)
Athena FFP011 (Ducati OEM)
Scott's Performance (permanent washable replacement)

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Fram PH6074 (was PH2839, PH2864A)
Purolator ML16829 3.3 x 3.2 x 3.3 inches (was FC 103 or OC 5)
AC Delco FX0011 (was X4A)
Motorcraft EFL 47
NAPA: 1352 (1352NAPA and 551352 on the box)

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Champion H101
Cooper Z64
Powertrain FL125
Fiaam FT4654, FT 4847 or PA7059
Purflux LS187
Halfords HOF216
Tecafilter Ref OC5
Technocar R12, R72, R434
Knecht OC 5 (equivalent to Ducati #065149960 and #090549960)
TJ FB2094
Mann & H W712/9, W712/11
Unipart GFE 201
 

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I use the K&N 153 and have been very happy with this filter and the price. Plus, any dealer can order the K&N.

Does anyone know of a can cutter to use to open the fitters to inspect the inner filter elememt?

These are usually like a tubing cutter with a wheel so you can open the can for inspection.
 

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Scott stainless steel filter; better filtration, higher flow, remove filter cartrige to inspect and clean, never buy another one again, plus the aluminum housing looks trick.
 

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I use K&N as well. I have used them in my trucks for as long as i can remember too. They are easy to get and the nut head on the bottom is a big plus as it makes it so much easier to service.
 

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It's well known that Scott's steel screen filters are no where near filtration of paper filters. Actually well known oil site "bob is the oil guy" does not recommend them. When tested filtration was piss poor......


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How's the K&N for filtration? I've read that the Pure 1 filters are excellent. And the Duc filter?
 

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I've had a Ducati filter leak around the metal to metal seal.
I thought it may be the gasket , but the installing dealer found the filter to be defective...
one in a million I guess...

I usually support the dealer and buy extras when they have a sale on...$13 - $15 each ...
 

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I've used K&N oil filters on multiple bikes in a variety of circumstances, including my track-only Honda SP2, always with good results.
 

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K&N 153 Here too, read an article on how it is superior to the stock filter but don't remember where, you can search for it on here if you want but the jist was it was better in every way over stock which is good enough for me.
 

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Anyone ever study how filters are rated for cold flow? Riding in a cold rain or under 55 degrees makes me wonder. I sure wouldn't want to (likely have for years) ride around all day with the filter in bypass.
Who other than me blocks off the oil cooler under 55 to keep oil temps up.

Yeah yeah, here come the I never see temps under 55 or have rain where I live posts.
 

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Anyone ever study how filters are rated for cold flow? Riding in a cold rain or under 55 degrees makes me wonder. I sure wouldn't want to (likely have for years) ride around all day with the filter in bypass.
Who other than me blocks off the oil cooler under 55 to keep oil temps up.

Yeah yeah, here come the I never see temps under 55 or have rain where I live posts.
On the Gulf Coast we see RAIN. No such thing as a drizzle. If it's raining, it's usually a downpour. No fun for driving in let alone riding in. The winters are mild but still that 'ole Southern Humidity. 55 degrees feels like 30 with the chill going right through you. Also, not too fun to ride in. I'm envious of the riders on the West Coast.
 

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If you ride regularly at 55°F you can switch to a 10W30 viscosity oil that will give you an oil pressure lower than 40 or 50 weight (see your Manual.) Less chance or the filter going into bypass. Unlikely that it would anyway, unless the filter is clogged.
 

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K & N KN-153 (The nut on the can allows for easy removal)
I would not recommend using the K & N filter on any motorcycle. On numerous occasions, I've had to remove these filters on friends bikes that were over-tightened. This problem has now occurred on an ST3 motor I just purchased as a spare outfitted with this horrible filter.

The nut on the K & N filter is hollow. So if the filter is over-tightened, the nut easily strips leaving you with filter that is smooth on the outside with nothing to grab onto. It quickly becomes a nightmare to remove. I frankly only use the Ducati filter because they are easy to remove and I know they are made for the application. They cost a few dollars more, but with the price of gas at $4 a gallon and oil at $10 quart, you're not saving much when you look at the total operating cost of a bike. Maybe I'm overly cautious from past experience. Back in the 80s, riding buddies started using aftermarket filters on their bikes to save money resulting in filter elements coming apart and destroying motors. Today's filters are much better. But why take the chance.

There is simply no reason to over-tighten an oil filter. Ducati recommends 11nm on the oil filter cartridge. For me, that's too tight. I tighten the filter to 11nm, then back it down a 1/4 turn. I've never had one leak or stick tightening this way.
 

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I still like the K&N 153. Any filter would be a pain if it is overtightened.

Summit racing oil filter can cutter looks good to me. Great for inspecting the inside paper elements.

On the oil filter I ignore Ducati torque. Put a film on oil on the rubber seal, seat the filter by hand and then rotate a 1/4 turn and stop. No leaks and never any removal issues. Plus they have a tab for safety wire if that makes ya feel better or your racing.
 

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Every K&N automotive filter I've seen cut open never impressed me, makes me wonder if their motorcycle filters are any better quality or not. I think Champion still makes them for K&N to private label. At least while factory warranty is in force, its not a bad idea to just use the Ducati oil filter. Strap type oil filter wrench has always worked well for me for removing filters.

On the Testastretta 11* the bypass valve is on the engine and so the oil filter may not contain one.
 

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K&N serves several flavors of kool aid!
Actually, it seems as though I am due to order a large plate of crow and a sturdy fork, after my post # 18 above.

I found this:

TPO Parts

They cut apart a K&N and a UFI which they say is a Ducati OEM filter and compared. The K&N smokes the UFI. Question is, is UFI definitely the OEM manufacturer for Ducati? If they are, that is not thrilling. UFI has a lot of production in China.
 
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