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I had a Nemesis ECU fitted to my S1K the beginning of last month. All went well, the bike had better power however it seemed a little rough at idle and also smelt rich at idle. It was due for it's 48,000 km service two weeks after, so I asked the Nemesis installer whether I needed to tell my bike shop anything regarding the new chip. He said not.
When I dropped it in for the service I told them I had fitted a Nemesis and it was running strongly however the idle was a little rough. They said they'd look at it. The service wound up costing me around $1200 Aus BTW.
After picking up the bike from the shop, I got around 5kms away and it started to cut out in heavy traffic. The ignition was cutting in and out. I turned around and took it back to the shop. They said "we only adjusted the air bleed screws to adjust the idle mix", whipped out a screwdriver and said "there. they're back where they were". I test rode it and it seemed back to what it was like before.
Long story short, the problem got intermittently worse until I eventually felt it was unsafe to ride. I took it back to the shop and left it with them to fix the problem. That was nearly three weeks ago. The Nemesis tuner and the shop have been passing the buck back and forth it seems, with no satisfactory result.
I'm depressed with the situation now as you might well imagine.
The Nemesis guys seem to think up new potential faults for the shop to try, but nothing has been established as the fault to date. After speaking to the shop yesterday they said they were asked to check the sidestand switch.. Nemesis headquarters in England seem reluctant to ship a replacement ECU to swap to see if it is faulty.
At least the shop lent me a bike to commute on. It's a Kwaka ER6f though.
The shop is not a Ducati dealer however several of their mechanics did their training at a highly regarded Sydney Ducati specialist.
 

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Oh and after talking to the Nemesis tuner a bit he mentioned that he only mapped over 3000 rpm, which would explain the idle being out.
I mean for the price you'd think he might have tuned the whole thing properly, especially knowing I live in the city and commute on the thing.

Frustrated..
 

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You can't have your DP ECU back !!!!

Sorry to hear you are having these problems. Sounds like you are paving the way for anyone else who follows you down the Nemesis route :(

Rob
 

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Yeah Bly- sorry you're having problems. The Nemesis ECU is supposed to be the s**t.

Ducati Seattle is a Nemesis dealer, and have installed it on Sport Classics. They have a dyno and I think they dyno everything they tune. Besides having some insight, they might have a map? They're pretty good people- maybe drop them a line or call?

http://ducatiseattle.com/home06/home.htm
 

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You can't have your DP ECU back !!!!

Sorry to hear you are having these problems. Sounds like you are paving the way for anyone else who follows you down the Nemesis route :(

Rob
Bastard!
They actually asked me if I had it so they could see if it was the ECU.
No worries - how are the pipes coming along?
 

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Pipes are looking fantastic!!!!!!! I called in this morning to check on progress. The headers are complete and polished, he is just finalising welding on the mufflers and then they need to be polished.

I pick up the bike on Saturday. Photos and video clip should be up by the end of the weekend.

Did you see my sneak peek:
http://www.ducati.ms/forums/showthread.php?t=66679
 

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Stock ECU?

Bastard!
They actually asked me if I had it so they could see if it was the ECU.
Could you try using the stock ECU? To at least eliminate electrical issues? (I assume you still have your stock ECU.)
 

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No stock ECU. When I got the Termis fitted the shop forgot to give it to me.
I asked later but they fobbed me off and I now use a different shop for service.
 

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the shop "forgot" to give the stock ECU back to you? What a crock of shit. They didn't forget anything and I'm sure it's found it's way onto some other bike. hmmmm....
I had my Termi's installed at Northside - got everything back that was stock, neatly wrapped in the Termi and DP ECU boxes etc.
 

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the shop "forgot" to give the stock ECU back to you? What a crock of shit. They didn't forget anything and I'm sure it's found it's way onto some other bike. hmmmm....
I had my Termi's installed at Northside - got everything back that was stock, neatly wrapped in the Termi and DP ECU boxes etc.
Yeah, it was Northside.

Better check - that ECU may be mine.

Aren't they red keyed?
That's why I figured it was a waste of time going up there and getting one back. You better watch what they do to your bike BTW.
 

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Update on this.
I posted a little rant here and another yesterday about being fed up with the situation.
Later in the day the head mechanic from the bikeshop - Fl*wh**ls - rang me up to tell me he read what I wrote on the forum and to come and get my bike, and bring back the loaner.
A bit precious I reckon.
The thing is still unrideable by the way.
 

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Well, they really don't care about customer satisfaction !!!! They are now left with an even worse reputation.

It crosses them off my list of people I was going to speak to about dyno'ing my bike.
 

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Motorcycle Weaponry have a good reputation though I haven't used them.
I was tying my bike onto the trailer this morning outside that shop and a bloke came up to chat and told me I ought to give them a try.
 

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Nemises Ecu

Did your ECU ship with a basic map ? If so it was recently developed by them for the SC. Depending on what other mods you have done to the bike will determine how it will operate or not. The set up should ALWAYS be done on a dyno so's you can write your own adjustments into the program. I am in Vancouver BC and know the guys at Seattle Ducati well. Marty is their dyno guy and a very experienced mechanic. I just added 1080 12-1 Pistal c\w MBP heads and DP cams and altho I do most of my own work when I add the Nemises to my bike ( it is on my bench now) I will definitely have it on the dyno . Guaranteed this is your problem as there is no way to set up the Nemises without the benefit of running the motor under load thru its full range ...anything else is sheer guess work as you are finding out is endless....

good luck... meanwhile here is a video of me chasin an R1 down the freeway the other day
.....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO5cjtA51rI

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Yeah it was mapped on the dyno.
Went freakin awesomely until it started to fail.
This is something else.
 

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Update on this.
I posted a little rant here and another yesterday about being fed up with the situation.
Later in the day the head mechanic from the bikeshop - Fl*wh**ls - rang me up to tell me he read what I wrote on the forum and to come and get my bike, and bring back the loaner.
A bit precious I reckon.
The thing is still unrideable by the way.
Whattt??!

Let me get this straight: The same shop that installed the ECU, that doesn't work, is going to not fix it because you discussed it in public?

That has GOT to be breaking some consumer laws. In fact, that type of stuff is the reason we have consumer laws.
 

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Whattt??!

Let me get this straight: The same shop that installed the ECU, that doesn't work, is going to not fix it because you discussed it in public?

That has GOT to be breaking some consumer laws. In fact, that type of stuff is the reason we have consumer laws.
No it's a little more complicated than that. Someone else fitted it but still, three weeks and no solution in sight.
 

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No it's a little more complicated than that. Someone else fitted it but still, three weeks and no solution in sight.
Ah, ok. Still funny that the second shop didn't take the chance of completing the project and thus earning positive publicity. Man, this sucks. Maybe the Nemesis manufacturer can be made to understand that quite a few people are following the installation process, to see if the Nemesis lives up to the hype.
 
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