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Hi everyone. New to the forum. I currently own a BMW K1600 and will be selling it as I will be moving to the Philippines this year. I am thinking about jumping ship over to Ducati and wanted to get some info. I ride with my wife most of the time and she needs to be happy too. I am straying away from the big tourer because of the road and heavy traffic conditions in the Philippines. I need something light and agile, capable of carrying a passenger, being able to filter through traffic with ease, throw bags on it for out of town trips (350km or so....takes up to 12 hours here depending on traffic!), and the roads here are downright bad everywhere so I was leaning towards the Multi as it seems to fit the bill for all the conditions I have described. There is but a few things a few days of lurking hasn't clued me in on...

How is the passenger comfort? Will most likely getting the touring model with top case.

Temp here is usually in the 90s with humidity at full blast. Any heat issues as far as the bike goes? Sitting in traffic? Or any heat being thrown at rider or pillion?

And if anyone is wondering why I am jumping ship is because Ducati has a better established dealer here (on top of having better looking bikes) and the BMW dealer sucks...and that is being relatively nice about that.

Thanks for your honest input.

Kevin


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the Handbrake has reluctantly admitted that the Multi is far more comfortable than my Heritage softtail ... and she loved being the "Queen" on that bike. she has not complained about heat or buffeting .

better yet , whats stopping you from taking a test ride ?

that will tell you all you need to know .
 

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Working on getting to the dealership possibly this weekend. Just want to absorb as much info as possible before going in.


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2 up is fine on my multi s touring

With the top case on my wife is very comfortable but we have done 70 miles max 2 up. I just hit the 2 passenger w luggage to firm up the pre load and off we go. Combined rider weight aprox 300 lbs w gear.

Just out of curiosity... What did you like/dislike about the big BMW 1600.? Part do me wants one if I ever get into some serious cross country stuff.
 

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The K1600 is great but it is not practical in tight traffic and urban riding. At 750 lbs it is a handful if you are not chewing up highway miles. As far as the bike itself I don't have any complaints and it is the most comfortable bike I have ever sat on as far as touring goes. Again it's very big though and isn't exactly designed for rougher roads. To top it off the dealer here for BMW is a bunch of ass hats and I don't want to deal with them at all.


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Are we talking hotter than normal or hot to the point of shutting down? Last time I lived here I rode a R1 and it would go over 240 degrees regularly but it never overheated to the point the computer would kill it. The worst part of that bike was the heat it threw on the riders hands an legs.


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Here is typical Sydney weather and out on the open road, mine sits in the high 60' to low 70's (degrees C).

In stop start traffic is quickly goes up to 105 or more.
I've seen it hit 111 once, but my stop start traffic is fairly short and once I'm moving again it drops back to 70-80 ish ... (and I start breathing again).

As for rider pillion comfort the heat doesnt seem to be an issue. (I *do* feel it on my left leg when it gets real hot, but it's not distractingly hot).

As for general comfort, my other half is quite happy. Esp. with the topbox to lean back on. Also her legs are further away from the engine so heat dosn't seem to be any issue there ...

I have a MIVV decat and can, so maybe that helps keep the heat away on the exhaust side.

The stock can and cat seem to generate (and hold) a lot of heat and this in turn is seen as discolored brake fluid and on the early models as melted plastic outer on the cable to the flapper valve in the cat. (Oh also melted rubber bumper for the center stand).

Hope that helps ?

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What I am reading about pillion comfort has got me excited about this bike now. Hopefully I can drag my wife to the dealership today or tomorrow to get a up close look at the bike.


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We have a couple of bikes. The multistrada is the only bike my wife will ride two up on. She loves it. Says it is very comfortable. However, I love it because it is fast, snarling, road beast :) We just bought a Givi monokey top box and a mini back rest (I don't like the back rest). Technically it is her bike and I was ordered to get the stupid back rest. I take it off as soon as she is off the bike:) With the top box on, it kind gives her some security she is not going to fly off the back when I hammer the throttle to let the termignoni sing.
 

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Firstly, a Mutley in the Phil's makes sense. The flexibility and power will get you out of crazy situations and enable you to keep out of the chaos. I've done a bit of riding in Luzon and the scariest part is when you don't have the HP to get ahead of the idiots who don't see bikes. As for two-up, I'd run with the top box idea. The rider at least has bars to hang onto when the throttle is twisted. 150 HP in Sport mode is a bit much for any pillion.

Overheating shouldn't be a problem, the fans tend to sort it out (but your legs know about it when they kick in! Don't wear shorts). But don't make the mistake of turning the bike off when stuck in a traffic jam - stops the cooling system working and before you can blink you'll be in OH mode.


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Are we talking hotter than normal or hot to the point of shutting down? Last time I lived here I rode a R1 and it would go over 240 degrees regularly but it never overheated to the point the computer would kill it. The worst part of that bike was the heat it threw on the riders hands an legs.


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I've never pushed mine to the point of overheating simply because I've never put myself in a total stop/go situation on a hot day. But I've hit 225 very quickly in even mild traffic on a 90 degree day with no end in sight until I got some air flow. All my Ducati's have run very hot when they didn't get air flow.
 

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Thanks for everyone's input. We will be heading over to the dealer in the morning.


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Overheating shouldn't be a problem, the fans tend to sort it out. But don't make the mistake of turning the bike off when stuck in a traffic jam - stops the cooling system working and before you can blink you'll be in OH mode

Great advice!


I've never pushed mine to the point of overheating simply because I've never put myself in a total stop/go situation on a hot day. But I've hit 225 very quickly in even mild traffic on a 90 degree day with no end in sight until I got some air flow. All my Ducati's have run very hot when they didn't get air flow.
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Excellent reminder!

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I ride with my wife almost every other weekend (we ride mountainbikes in between). She always gets a big say in our two up bike (we have 4 bikes) and tells me the Multistrada is the 2nd most comfy bike she has ridden on the pillion seat. We ride around 500 kilometres at a time and also do a few tours over days or weeks.
We've had touring Beemers, Yammys, Guzzis and Ducs and her top favourite seat was on my Yammy XJR1300SP.

Mine is the S sports version with lots of carbon, Leo Vince and Bazzaz plus I forked out for the Ducati panniers to match.
 

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My wife has issues with her neck and knees.
We've done 5 hour rides and she's a happy pillion on the ST with bags and
top box.
The bike doesn't throw nearly as much heat as a fully faired I-4.
 

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What I am reading about pillion comfort has got me excited about this bike now. Hopefully I can drag my wife to the dealership today or tomorrow to get a up close look at the bike.


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You guys will like it. We tried the new triumph tiger, the triumph sprint, and the concours. Nice bikes, but the Multistrada just pushed all the right buttons for us.
 

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wife loves top case, will ride all day

Recently spent 5 hours riding from Boston into New Hampshire and back, wife was so comfortable she almost fell asleep at one point, but woke up to punch me in the kidney when she saw I was sneaking past 100mph. She's much more comfortable with the top case on, and so am I since I'd hate to lose her off the back if I get frisky with the throttle in sport mode.
 

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Recently spent 5 hours riding from Boston into New Hampshire and back, wife was so comfortable she almost fell asleep at one point, but woke up to punch me in the kidney when she saw I was sneaking past 100mph. She's much more comfortable with the top case on, and so am I since I'd hate to lose her off the back if I get frisky with the throttle in sport mode.
Thats too funny. We just got the Givi monokey top box and similar experience. Wife very comfortable. The top box gives her a sense of security. I got slapped because I accidently (thats my story and sticking to it) popped a little wheelie while in "frisky" mode.
 

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My Wife is 5´10 (180cm) and 150 LBS (70 kg) and she loves the pillon.
I also put the topcase on for a backrest which was very much approved.

The ergos are good. The wife used to ride two up on my little BMW F650 and loves the MTS.
 
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