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He wouldn't be the first s1krr rider to complain about Ducati throttle response. :) If I read one thing about those bikes, as agreed upon by all reviewers, it's that they are the easiest RR bike to ride fast out there, closely followed by the CBR1Krr, another "Japanese" bike. :) Ducatis OTOH, take more skill than just being able to buy one in order to ride them proficiently, and it looks like in the hands of very skilled riders, like those at the WSBK level, they do alright. ;)

In any case, who cares? :)
 

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No Ducati superbike should be a first bike.That sounds like a recipe to make my insurance go up..

lol, (another "Japanese" bike).. Thats funny.
 

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I'd ride a BMW if they didnt have that extra chromosome headlight design. All bikes have there plus and minus's....love what u ride and be happy for others (unless they show you attitude:D then F them)
 

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The name gave it away. Sounds like the local dealer here in Portland. I wonder if it's true?
 

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Hehe.

You are 100% correct. I can't drive even to 50% of what the 1199 is capable of, nor the S1000RR. But what I CAN do is ride in a straight line at a constant speed going 40mph in 2nd gear.
What the Duc CAN'T do is maintain that constant 40mph in 2nd gear. It either lurches forwards, or backwards. The engine smoothness below 8000rpm is non-existant. Also, as it lurches back and forth, it's burning my legs!
SHIFT! :D
 

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by the way hes talking on the forum she was prolly right the squid dont deserve the bike!...if hes gonna pissed off at some $10 an hr service writer...:confused:
 

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What is this "heat" everyone on there keeps complaining about? Stop riding in shorts 'n flip-flops and wear your leather gear.

And they say "being a Ducatista" is ghey.. Sounds like the BMW boys sip more wine then us.
 

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It's not wine that they drink, it's Kool-Aid! The OP on the BMW site sounds like a 30 year old with a 12 year old brain. If his Ducati was lurching at 8 thousand rpm I think there's something more to that story. In fact I haven't heard so much B.S. since Rawhide went off the air. I was almost going to register on that site just to make some comments but it would be pointless in the end. Is he a troll? Perhaps, but I think he really needs to grow up and get a Rebel instead of what he has. And then he should take an MSF basic class.

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I always laugh at morons who hop on liter bikes when they just start riding. Have fun on your S1000RR, that's one less 1199 we will have to see crash pictures of then.
 

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I'd ride a BMW if they didnt have that extra chromosome headlight design. All bikes have there plus and minus's....love what u ride and be happy for others (unless they show you attitude:D then F them)
Exactly...ride what you love. :) But speaking of plus and minuses, they've all got 'em. :)

Clipped from another current thread re posts on quality of ownership experience, as in German vs Italian:

German crap.

Don't let me begin to tell you the major issues I have with my BMW S1000RR. Engine replacements, lock ups, rocks in the crank case sounds, brake pads that fall out as they wear, very bad forks and shock.... dead ECU, and loose timing chains. The Germans tell you the way it going to be, if you don't like it...your the one thats wrong.
 

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Oh you guys are starting to sound JUST like them. If you say the S1000rr is an inferior bike you are crazy, because almost every magazine will disagree with you. They are both awesome, they are both different.
 

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I read the entire BMW forum thread yesterday and, while there were some Duc bashers, there were a lot of defenders as well.

In my opinion, most of the people that "got" it, understood that whatever comment the girl said was because the guy was a brand new rider with an attitude of "I want the best" and not the skill to ride the best.

As I've seen in this thread and the BMW one, and from my own experience, it would seem that most people with enough experience on motorcycles would agree that an 1199 Panigale or an S1000RR is (to put it mildly) not a great idea for a starter bike!

As others have stated, every manufacturer has their issues. I currently ride a Diavel, and my previous bike was a BMW K1200R; I freaking loved that bike. Unfortunately, at around 8500 miles or so, my K12R developed a second gear issue where it would pop out and then back into gear under moderate acceleration. That was awesome when I found that out at a track day, by the way.

I love BMW cars and bikes, and have always loved Ducatis since before I started riding. My 748S had bizarre electrical issues when it rained, and a warranty clutch replacement at the 6k mile service.

Who cares?! I still love 748S's and K1200R's, and would buy another one of either if given the chance.

But neither of those bikes, nor my Diavel, was my first bike. And that's what the main issue is with this dude. I would not take what a brand new rider says in their description of any bike, much less an 1199 or an S1000RR, to be gospel or even half-meaningful. When I got my first bike I barely knew what gear I was in half the time!

Just my $0.02.

Oh and, looks wise, the S1000RR is the ugly (but not fat) sister of the 1199. :D
 

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Money doesnt buy you (OP on BMW site) skill nor wisdom, nor maturity.

I'm riding the slowest sport type bike Ive ever owned and its a hoot.

Just because you can afford it, doesnt mean you should.

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Great post.

The faster, better, more agruements are ridiculous. The only thing happening is more nanny devices because of it.

Have a good one.
 

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I read the entire BMW forum thread yesterday and, while there were some Duc bashers, there were a lot of defenders as well.
I think with most REAL motorcycle enthusiasts you will not see much bashing from either side. Maybe the occasional "ribbing" or joking between brands, but anyone who has half a clue knows that any bike in this category is a great bike. They all have their differences but at the end of the day they all are capable of going around the track at similar speeds and much faster than any of us can do including the rider in question who supposedly just bought this is his first bike.

I hope nobody takes this thread too seriously on either side. It is fun too watch though. :D
 
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