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So I'm at my "local" dealership this morning, same place I bought my bike new in 2005, buying oil and fuel filters and the sales guy tells me they're coming out with a touring version of.........................................the Diavel. :confused:

I look at the models on his floor, and he has like 4 new Diavels sitting there, 2 AMGs. (which I like ) And now, they're bringing out a *touring* version of a slow selling, expensive muscle bike as opposed to a real ST? :think:

Ducati's effed. :)
 

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I once read back in the 90's that Harley was the market; the Japanese studied the market and made what would sell; while the Italians ignored the market, made whatever they pleased, and hoped it would sell.

I'll leave it to the rest of you to ponder if this was ever/still holds true and how it plays into the introduction of a touring Diavel.
 

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So, would the make a drivel into a drool? More bad news indeed.

Have a good one.
 

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My local dealer hasn't had a problem moving their stock of base or carbon Diavels, but the 'chromo' model is just sitting there, next to one of those 27k AMG styling exercises. Methinks Diavel purchasers aren't quite the lifestyle crowd Ducati had hoped. They seem to go for real features over glitz and the illusion of exclusivity, just like most Ducati owners have done, most of the time.

It's possible that a 'touring' Diavel might have features worth considering, but I doubt it. I don't think the look and feel that appeals to potential Diavel owners also will appeal to those who want to tour. It's liable to sit on showrooms, much as the GT1000 Touring setup did.
 

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why would anyone put bags on a Vmax anyway
I've seen people touring on them, saying they were "great" to tour on. Sure they are.....120 mile range, buck board suspension, no wind/weather protection. :) (I owned one, and they are really fun bikes, but NOT good tourers)

So go figure Ducati: they drop like a dead fish their best touring motorcyle, and then replace it with a big, overly complicated motard, accesorise the actual motard, and a retro, and now a muscle bike. :rolleyes: Think there's a gap in the line-up they're trying to comepnsate for by whipping up all these pseudo S-tourers? ;)
 

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"Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig." - Robert Heinlein.

Kind of the way I feel about so many of these efforts at turning one or another bike into a 'sports-tourer' when their mission is so decidedly otherwise. Just because you can hang bags on it, doesn't mean it can do the job in a convincing manner. :rolleyes:

Best option is to start with a sports bike and work out from there. If my ST gives up the ghost, I'll see what I can do with the 999s.

Ron
 

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Ta hell with these half-baked wannabe's....
Bring back the bike we're all truly waiting for,

REVIVE the INDIANA!

Dammit!
 

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I don't do this very often but yesterday I went to the Ducati site to check out their lineup. Honestly, there wasn't one bike that interested me. A lot of that is based on the type of riding I do. A new Supersport or new and sportier ST would do it for me. God it's so sad.
 

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Ya know, it was commented on in another thread, but the Apollo might not be a bad idea: big, retro, cruiser. I like the styling for the vintage.

But then, I also liked the Indiana for what it was compared to other UJM standard bikes of the day.

For a full dresser Drool, I see it looking like the transfromation between the CanAm and the CanAm touring. It went from something that had about one good viewing angle to a moving blob that doesn't look good no matter how you look at it.

Have a good one.
 

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I don't do this very often but yesterday I went to the Ducati site to check out their lineup. Honestly, there wasn't one bike that interested me. A lot of that is based on the type of riding I do. A new Supersport or new and sportier ST would do it for me. God it's so sad.
And, I can easly see that a few solid tweaks to many of these bike could increase the appeal, whether it be a bit of styling or a bit less gizmo-creep or a bit of parts bin shopping. It's all there, waiting to be put together. For the life of me, I can't understand the roadblock.

Give it five minutes and someone is going to quote sales figures. The original ST was a parts bin bike that could still be produced in appropriate numbers.

Have a good one.
 

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Any of you guys ever spent any meaningful time on a Multistrada Touring?
Why? A tall bike has its purpose, esp when off-road use is considered. A tall bike with a vertical seating position has no purpose in my garage. I prefer a fwd position and don't go off road. If I ever chose to, I would not consider any twin cylinder Ducati for that purpose.

Have a good one.
 
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