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I realize how dumb this may sound initially, but.

Can you check the oil level accurately with the bike on the centerstand?

It seems pretty awkward to do it any other way.

I have a 2015 1200DVT
 

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Can you check the oil level accurately with the bike on the centerstand
Yes, the center stand only changes the bike's front-to-back level about 4°. The important thing is to keep the bike upright side-to-side.

Another method is to use a small hand mirror to view the sight glass when you’re astride to make sure it’s between the two marks.
 

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Typically the oil level will be a little bit off on the stand, the amount can vary. Simple test will be to set your oil level to the lower 1/4 on the stand, then take it off the stand and check it with both wheels on the ground and upright. Most of the time I see bikes over filled because a owner used the center stand and filler it to 3/4 and above then when flat you have almost no air in the window.

Once you know where you need to be on your bike simply mentally note the location or mark the cover.

Too little oil we get can be bad. Too much oil is about not knowing if your cases are over filled due to coolant,water,gas or excess oil in the cases so you always want a air gap in the window so an a glance you can tell if you are good to go.
 

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Both tires should be on the ground and the bike vertical. With the bike on the side stand, I stand on the righthand side of the bike, pull it towards me with one hand on the handlebar, and the other on the seat. Once it is fairly balanced, you can bend down a bit and see the oil level.
 

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it's so simple. Check with both wheels on the ground then put it on the center stand, oil level is the same. So yeah, check it on the center stand or off, virtually no difference
 

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it's so simple. Check with both wheels on the ground then put it on the center stand, oil level is the same. So yeah, check it on the center stand or off, virtually no difference
I'll test this out with a helper sitting on the bike. I hope your right, because checking it on the center stand would make all the difference. Everything else sounds risky as hell.
 

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Both tires should be on the ground and the bike vertical. With the bike on the side stand, I stand on the righthand side of the bike, pull it towards me with one hand on the handlebar, and the other on the seat. Once it is fairly balanced, you can bend down a bit and see the oil level.
that's how i would do it. the bike can't fall to the left as the side stand is down, can't fall to the right as that's where you are. well, you'll break its fall anyway.
 

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After initially testing to assure myself that checking the oil on the center-stand is very close to checking with both wheels on the ground I've done it that way for the last 35,000 miles.

I also found that checking the chain tension is very much the same on the center-stand as it is on the side-stand (as the manual says to check it). It seems to be off about the width of the chain rivet, so I mentally compensate using the little gauge that comes with the tool kit.
 

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I noticed that on a center stand the oil level is a bit higher than with the wheels on the ground. Coincidentally, the difference is exactly the same as between hot and cold oil. So (at least for me), cold oil level on the stand = hot oil level with both wheels on the ground. But, as already mentioned, the levels difference (on the center stand or on the ground) is so small that it can be safely ignored. Way more important is to keep the bike straight left/right.
 

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it's so simple. Check with both wheels on the ground then put it on the center stand, oil level is the same. So yeah, check it on the center stand or off, virtually no difference
This turned out to be true.

There is no difference in the oil level when checking it on the center stand, or the other ridiculous way.

The center stand sure makes life easy in a few ways.
 

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I noticed that on a center stand the oil level is a bit higher than with the wheels on the ground. Coincidentally, the difference is exactly the same as between hot and cold oil. So (at least for me), cold oil level on the stand = hot oil level with both wheels on the ground. But, as already mentioned, the levels difference (on the center stand or on the ground) is so small that it can be safely ignored. Way more important is to keep the bike straight left/right.
Is the oil level in the glass eye correct when it's hot, or when it's cold?
 

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Is the oil level in the glass eye correct when it's hot, or when it's cold?
Not accurate with motor running... but if the engine is warm but off it'll be accurate pretty quickly after shutting the engine off.

If oil is cold it may take longer for it to be accurate after shutting the motor off (higher viscosity).

Oil will change density by about 6% between cold and operating temp... given that the motor holds about 3 and a half liters the difference between cold and hot is roughly the same as a .200ml volume difference...
 
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