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The bike i'm looking at is a 04 998S FE. I need some answers as I'm totally confused.

First, this bike is in the USA and was bought there. What is the correct HP rating on this bike. Some websites have 123 and some 136. I thought that the 123 was for the base model and the S model was always 136.

Second, Can you put on a full race exhaust terg onto this bike? It is being sold as having one. What diameter would this exhaust be then?

Third, I hear this engine does not have a deep sump. I talked to my dealer who said that none of these bikes (years and model) didn't have the deep sump engines until the 999 era. Did the 998R maybe have it?

I'm confused. Please help this potential newbie out.

donno
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I'm also researching the FE but it's been hard to find info on the bike I think there was 124 produced

Chassis
Frame Tubular steel trellis
Wheelbase 1410 mm - 55.5 in
Rake 23,5° ÷ 24,5°
Front suspension Ohlins with TiN upside-down fully adjustable fork
Front wheel travel 127 mm - 5 in
Front brake 2 x 320 mm semi-floating discs, 4-piston 4-pad calipers
Front wheel Marchesini 5-spoke light alloy 3.50 x 17
Front tyre 120/70 ZR 17
Rear suspension Progressive linkage with adjustable Ohlins monoshock
Rear wheel travel 130 mm - 5.1 in
Rear brake 220 mm disc, 2-piston caliper
Rear wheel Marchesini 5-spoke light alloy, 5.50 x 17
Rear tyre 190/50 ZR 17
Fuel tank capacity 17 l (including 4 l reserve)
Weight * n.a.
Seat height 790 mm - 31.1 in
Instruments Speedometer, rev counter, indicators for high beam, turn signals, warning light for low oil pressure, fuel level, warning light for neutral, water temperature
Warranty 2 years unlimited mileage
Colour Red
Versions Single-seat / Dual-seat
* = The weight includes battery, lubricants and, where applicable, cooling liquid.

Engine
Type L twin cylinder, 4 valve per cylinder Desmodromic; liquid cooled
Displacement 998 cc
BorexStroke 100x63.5 mm
Compression Ratio 11.4:1
Power 100 kW - 136 HP @ 10000 rpm
Torque 101Nm - 10.3 kgm @ 8000 rpm
Fuel injection Marelli electronic fuel injection, 54 mm throttle body
Exhaust 2 aluminum mufflers by Termignoni
Emissions Euro 1
Transmission
Gearbox 6 speed
Ratios 1st 37/15, 2nd 30/17, 3th 28/20, 4th 26/22, 5th 24/23, 6th 23/24
Primary drive Straight cut gears; ratio 1.84
Final drive Chain; Front sprocket 15; Rear sprocket 36
Clutch Dry multiplate with hydraulic control
 

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Us 998SFE

The USA version 998SFE does not have the deep sump or the "S" cams just the Ohlins front and rear suspension. I almost bought one but the salesman could tell me absolutly nothing about the bike other than it was red. I figured
being as I already had an 03 999 I would be getting the engine I had in a different frame with different body work, which is true for the most part.
I would not get a 998FE for any other reason than for the Ohlins suspension
and that I liked the style of the bike. Last but not least the Testestretta
engine that is the best thing going at this time.
 

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998 Fe

Ok, I have one so heres the deal...

136HP @ Crank
300 Made WorldWide - 150 came to USA per Ducati
Usual S model suspension upgrades
I got the dealer to throw in the Termi 50mm 1/2 system and "racing" ECU - supposedly good for 4-6 more hp

The 2004 model year also had the Matrix Reloaded edition, but it was not an S level suspension or motor (124hp). Paid $17.2 out the door with pipes and ECU installed.

S model suspension is worth the extra cake.
 

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ECTurboGSX said:
My newbie question of the day; Was a 998R made or did they just go to the S level?
Yes of course!

The 998R has been produced in 2002, carbon fiber fairing, ohlins Front and rear, light rims and....999 cm3 engine (only 998R and 999R's have the 999cm3, other big testastretta's have a 998cm3, even the 999std and 999S).

Betarace, is your bike an US one or a European imported? (has it deep sump case?)
 

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998 Fe

Its a deep sump and 136HP US model. Here is a page from the owners manual.
 

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998s fe

Well thanks for all your replies. If anyone else actually owns one of these bikes can they check their owners manual as well just to confirm they have the same information.

Is it possible to have 136hp and a non-deep sump engine as well?

This is the website that i found...but all it says is that these specs don't apply to North American bikes. One little spec could be changed even as little as tires might be different.
http://www.ducati.com/scoopage.jhtml?area=promo&scoopNum=049


Like i said if anyone else can verify betarace that would be great.

thanks everyone...
donno
 

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betarace said:
Its a deep sump and 136HP US model. Here is a page from the owners manual.
You have a very strange one!
In Ducati Spare parts PDF, there's no deep sump and cams are regular's one.
http://www.ducati.com/docs_eng/service/parts/2004/catalogues/998S_FE_bip_eu_04_ed_01.zip
Deep sump cases are typical: they have a pyramidal shape on the bottom, whereas standard case are plane.

You can have 136 on all 998 "standard", Matrix or "S"(us specs) with "S"(euro specs) cams. Furthermore, these cams are also found OEM on 996R and, as far as i know, on 998R.
 

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mattjw916 said:
Just the "S" I believe....
No, 998 R has deep sump cases. This evolution appeared in WSBK to get a better lubrification in corner.
Testastrettas without deep sump:
998 biposto
998 S us specs
998 FE us specs
998 matrix
999 standard 2003/2004
749
749 S

Testastrettas WITH deep sump:
996 R (the very first one testastretta, trully a 998cm3, 2001)
998 S euro specs
998 FE euros specs
998 R
999 2005/2006
999 S
999 R
749 R
 

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donno said:
Well thanks for all your replies. If anyone else actually owns one of these bikes can they check their owners manual as well just to confirm they have the same information.

Is it possible to have 136hp and a non-deep sump engine as well?
US model is not 136HP, nor deep sump because the motor could not pass emissions. This is stated in any of the numerous books where the 998S FE is talked about.

If you look at the English part of the manual for say a 03 999 you will see the 91 kW and 124 HP. The 998S FE manual does not indicated “HP”, but kW 100 CV 136.

The US model manual power page is an oversight as the same power information is presented in same way for the Italian, English and the other two languages. Normally "HP" will be shown in the English section.
 

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Discussion Starter · #15 ·
clarifying...

Sorry, to clarify...
998s fe has no deep sum - I'm okay with this
YES/NO


998s fe has 123hp and not 136hp - not too happy about this
YES/NO


Are the 998 and 998S engine the same except for a difference in cams? YES/NO

I'm not overly mechanically inclined but can you get 13 hp (136 - 123) from different cams only?

Thanks again guys and please repsond as many as can.

donno
 

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I have a 2004 998S FE and it comes to the US with a little over 120 HP. The S for this model is for suspension only. Has all S model suspension upgrades. The motor is actually the 999 Testastretta motor. It is not a S model motor. It def confuses alot of people and dealers lol. And there was no 998R made for 2004. This was the only style 998 series made for 2004 as the final edition.
 
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