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Right, so there’s been a number of threads and lots of chat about new floating carriers for the ‘90’s cast iron floating brake rotors that were on Superlights, SS/SP’s, 851 SP’s, and a few other bikes. So now it’s time to get this underway.

Let me also state up front here, that I have no interest or association with whoever makes the carriers, or anything else, I just need a new set of carriers for my 851 SP3.

As has been previously stated, new rotors can be made from a 7000 series alloy, which is harder than the original 6000 series alloy carriers. However the manufacturer needs a number of sets ( 13 pairs I believe? ) to make it worth his while. Surely between all the bikes out there with these rotors, and everyone that has expressed interest in the previous threads, we can get 13 solid orders. Pricing is yet to be confirmed, but the talk on one of the other threads was in the region of USD$400 for the pair.

I’m sure someone appropriate will chime in with more accurate info and pricing at some stage.

The manufacturer will need a sample as well, so they can make the new ones as exact copies of the originals. So if no one in the US can lend them one, I will send one of mine from Australia.

So, please don’t whore this thread out with “yeah I want some but they’re too expensive”, “ my discs spin on the carriers but they’re fine”, or “ my $150 Chinese eBay floating rotors are the shiz”, please go to the other threads for that. Please only reply if you are serious about putting your hand up for a pair and have the coin to do it. Please also state how many pairs you want.

I’ll start the ball rolling with 1 pair, shipped to Perth. I’m more than happy to combine shipping with anyone else in Perth who wants some ( Julian, Graham? ).
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last night when i got off work, the carriers were waiting for me on the doorstep.
wow!
they look and feel great. quality product.
i can hardly wait until i have the time to replace them.

thank you!
Many thanks for your generous feed back!

Much appreciated.

Our current project is replica Ohlins upper fork stanchions for the Ohlins forks fitted to 851 SuperBikes. Ohlins has kindly provided us the original manufacturing drawings to make these as they can no longer provide these.

We are also currently looking into manufacturing some performance heads for the 91-97 900SS. But this project is little more than an idea currently.
I managed to set aside the time to replace the rotor carriers on my 900SS:

I will start off by saying that these carriers are of great quality. I think they are actually nicer than the Brembos that were on the bike.

the 900ss that i picked up last month, has been ridden quite a bit, it sat, and of course its 18yrs old... these new carriers are so nice, that I started to feel like they were too nice for my bike, but that only lasted about a micro second, as I started realizing exactly how worn my old carriers were. In a weird way.. i also started to feel like I wasn't doing Liam much justice by using the old buttons.

a nice surprise came when I decided, to flush the brake fluid, and may as well, clean up the calipers as best as I could without actually removing them and rebuilding. so the job was all done this evening, I took the bike out, and WOW! I was amazed to actually have modulation in the front brake, and best off all... no more shuddering/vibration under hard braking.

again.. thanks to Liam for the great product!

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I managed to set aside the time to replace the rotor carriers on my 900SS:

I will start off by saying that these carriers are of great quality. I think they are actually nicer than the Brembos that were on the bike.

the 900ss that i picked up last month, has been ridden quite a bit, it sat, and of course its 18yrs old... these new carriers are so nice, that I started to feel like they were too nice for my bike, but that only lasted about a micro second, as I started realizing exactly how worn my old carriers were. In a weird way.. i also started to feel like I wasn't doing Liam much justice by using the old buttons.

a nice surprise came when I decided, to flush the brake fluid, and may as well, clean up the calipers as best as I could without actually removing them and rebuilding. so the job was all done this evening, I took the bike out, and WOW! I was amazed to actually have modulation in the front brake, and best off all... no more shuddering/vibration under hard braking.

again.. thanks to Liam for the great product!
Many thanks for your generous feed back! You can't over estimate our satisfying it is to hear back from satisfied customers. Thanks again.
How do I know if my carriers are worn or if the buttons are worn. The bike is a 93 900sl with 13,000 miles on it. I have never had floating rotors on a bike before.
thanks
How do I know if my carriers are worn or if the buttons are worn. The bike is a 93 900sl with 13,000 miles on it. I have never had floating rotors on a bike before.
thanks
wow a '93SL! <--awesome!

in my case, the actual rotor "band" could be moved back and forth (front to rear) by hand. obviously when the bike is standing still and the brake not applied.

side to side movement is normal. I don't know what the measurable tolerances are. However, in my case, my bike now has 26,000 miles, and the front end would vibrate under hard braking. with new carriers, that symptom has now disappeared.
How do I know if my carriers are worn or if the buttons are worn. The bike is a 93 900sl with 13,000 miles on it. I have never had floating rotors on a bike before.
thanks
If you have excessive rotational play thee is a danger that the buttons will one day 'climb' out of the carriers under hard braking. In New Zealand the warrant of fitness resters typically fail them at about 18,000km. As Devo8 has said if they are really badly warn you will also get vibrations under braking.

However I have never seen the allowed tolerances published anywhere.
Some brake pad observations for those of us with cast iron discs.

I have just taken out a set of SBS dual carbons and they won't be going back in!

I use cast iron discs and have Ducati 999 4P/4P calipers fitted.

They work sort of OK on the street after a couple of applications to warm up but they eat cast iron discs very quickly (which they are supposed to be OK with). They seem very long lasting and gave good feed back. But worst of all the brake dust from them sticks to your wheels and everything else it lands on like shit to a blanket and forms a hard resin like layer that is VERY hard to remove. None of the usual solvents worked. The easiest way to clean everything was to strip the discs off the wheels and scrub for a couple of hours!

I have also used Ferodo Platinum pads on cast iron discs before and they worked pretty good from cold and also seemed OK on a couple of track days and the dust was easily brushed off. I would have used them again but couldn't 'find any platinum pads this time around so I am trying something new.

I have just stuck in some Ferodo CP1 pads which are supposed to be pretty friendly to cast iron discs. They have a much higher coefficient of friction than the SBS dual carbon pads. If you fell you need more breaking power these might just be the trick. So far seem relatively dust free. I need to fully bed them in and get used to them a bit more before I can report on feedback more.

Note when changing pads it's always a good idea to hone the discs to get rid of any transfer layers, etc, I normally just do this with some wet and dry sand paper on a rubber block.
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I wasn't going to make any more carriers but one of our customers has insisted to the point of sending me some money even though I hadn't confirmed I was doing any more. I think with the previous production run I had pretty much fulfilled demand but now I am kind of trapped to do at least one more set. So I will do a couple of extra sets at the same time if anyone wants them.

I had occasion as per my post above to strip the discs off the carriers yesterday, which was a good opportunity to inspect them for wear around the buttons. I am pretty pleased to report that (after 10,000 km on these carriers) there is no measurable wear on the carriers. The bike has now done 73,000 km and I am still using the original buttons.
Liam - do you anticipate the carrier price to be the same as the last run?
Liam - do you anticipate the carrier price to be the same as the last run?
Yes targeting the same price. Unless their has been a change to the cost of our raw materials I should expect them to be the same price. I will check billet cost out this week.
I really like how nice the rotor carries are. Totally upspec on my SP. Perhaps they should adorn my FE as well.


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For those who wonder why they should consider replacing their worn full floating disc carriers... I finally got around to fitting mine - and this shows the what my old ones looked like compared to the new ones from Liam. This is what 65,000kms does to the OEM carriers.



Liam is still taking orders for the next run - he needs 4 more pairs ordered to hit his run 'minimum'. PM him (FastBikeGear) or contact him via his website - Ducati Brembo 851, 888, Superlight and F.E. replica full floating disc carrier [Brembo-Rep-49240081A] - NZ $345.00 : FastBikeGear, Importers and Distributors of Motorcycle Accessories
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For those who wonder why they should consider replacing their worn full floating disc carriers... I finally got around to fitting mine - and this shows the what my old ones looked like compared to the new ones from Liam. This is what 65,000kms does to the OEM carriers.



Liam is still taking orders for the next run - he needs 4 more pairs ordered to hit his run 'minimum'. PM him (FastBikeGear) or contact him via his website - Ducati Brembo 851, 888, Superlight and F.E. replica full floating disc carrier [Brembo-Rep-49240081A] - NZ $345.00 : FastBikeGear, Importers and Distributors of Motorcycle Accessories
Just a quick update. I had decided not to do another run of carriers, but a very good friend has been pushing me to make another set for his bike. Part of the problem was that I was finding it difficult to source the 7075-T6 alloy billet we use for these in a suitable size and the machinest who was doing the rough out for us before the CNC machining got quite ill. However I managed to get some more billet and...

Our CNC shop has just finished machining another batch of Brembo replica carriers. Once I have checked these they will be off to the anodisers to get hard anodised and then off to get the final gold missile coating process. So I should have a few spare sets available in 2-3 weeks from today.
I have just completed another batch of replic Brembo full floating brake carriers. I said I was never going to do any more but as above a friend asked me to do him a set and we had some 7075-T6 billet left over from the last batch I did last year, so we decided to use it all up and do a few extra sets.

These are hard anodised and made from 7075-T6 alloy so much tougher and longer lasting than the soft originals which are no longer available from Brembo. There are plenty of good reviews on us and these carriers in this forum if you need to check out the quality of what we do.

The price on these is $345 New Zealand dollars each.

They will fit most Ducatis fitted with 6 bolt Brembo cast iron discs, including:
750SS 900SS
Monster M750/M900, S4,
851/888, 748/916/955/996/996SPS/R & 998 Superbikes

They will also fit some models of Laverda, Moto Guzzi and Aprilias including:

Laverda 668, 750S & 750 Formula,
Aprilia RSV1000, SL1000 and most late model Bimota's.

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Hi, Just wondering if anyone has a couple of these carriers for sale that they no longer have a use for?? Ive contacted @FastBikeGear but they only have one in stock and no plans to make any more at the moment,
Send me a pm if you can help,

Cheers jack
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