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Right, so there’s been a number of threads and lots of chat about new floating carriers for the ‘90’s cast iron floating brake rotors that were on Superlights, SS/SP’s, 851 SP’s, and a few other bikes. So now it’s time to get this underway.

Let me also state up front here, that I have no interest or association with whoever makes the carriers, or anything else, I just need a new set of carriers for my 851 SP3.

As has been previously stated, new rotors can be made from a 7000 series alloy, which is harder than the original 6000 series alloy carriers. However the manufacturer needs a number of sets ( 13 pairs I believe? ) to make it worth his while. Surely between all the bikes out there with these rotors, and everyone that has expressed interest in the previous threads, we can get 13 solid orders. Pricing is yet to be confirmed, but the talk on one of the other threads was in the region of USD$400 for the pair.

I’m sure someone appropriate will chime in with more accurate info and pricing at some stage.

The manufacturer will need a sample as well, so they can make the new ones as exact copies of the originals. So if no one in the US can lend them one, I will send one of mine from Australia.

So, please don’t whore this thread out with “yeah I want some but they’re too expensive”, “ my discs spin on the carriers but they’re fine”, or “ my $150 Chinese eBay floating rotors are the shiz”, please go to the other threads for that. Please only reply if you are serious about putting your hand up for a pair and have the coin to do it. Please also state how many pairs you want.

I’ll start the ball rolling with 1 pair, shipped to Perth. I’m more than happy to combine shipping with anyone else in Perth who wants some ( Julian, Graham? ).
 

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Corse Dynamics was the company that offered to make the production run for us. They actually asked us to take 15 sets - we will put 2 sets on the shelf to make this happen if there is enough interest - so we only need a total of 13 buyers. Price was $400/set.

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If the price is $400.00 or less - I'll throw in to help this happen.

I'll commit to ONE pair.
 

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I just posted this over on the 851 / 888 forum, so hopefully a few of them will join the fray.

These discs / carriers are also on 916 SP and 916 SPS.
 

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Are people having failures with their OEM carriers? Would love a little more background on the symptoms and potential failure scenarios with OEM cast irons. I have 2 bikes outfitted with them and have owned several sets, some very very loose, without issue (yet). But it does beg the question....
 

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The problem with the carriers is wear under the buttons which allows rotation of the disc.

The cast iron discs can crack between the drilled holes, and then eventually shatter. This disc failed on the track and tore the caliper off the fork leg of a friend's 916 SP.

http://mikesps.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/DSC-Picture-Hosting/i-szptvRz/0/D/IMG_0535-D.jpg

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Are people having failures with their OEM carriers? Would love a little more background on the symptoms and potential failure scenarios with OEM cast irons. I have 2 bikes outfitted with them and have owned several sets, some very very loose, without issue (yet). But it does beg the question....
 

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And other Brembo unobtanium...

I assume Corse-Dynamics issue is one of material, not time...

I'd like a new set of rotors too but 15mm offset 6 hole... Having a quick look on-line for a set I've read several other recent inquiries for these as well...

If C-D can produce a set on 15mm/6 hole rotors I'd definitely take a set. What would be REALLY cool would be if they could make discs in a different pattern. I know they've done it before (in hideous swirly patterns) so they are able to do it!

So how about some in the a Brembo Wideband look but in road-bike spec? They are one of the coolest looking brake rotors ever made IMO. It's just a shame they are so heavy and you cant use them except with narrowband calipers.

I've just lost my job but as soon s I'm working again I'd take a couple of sets of those (at least)! One in 10mm/5 hole and one in 15mm/6 hole. As long as they were the same Gold as the Brembo ones. And I'd buy at least one set of discs/buttons from you as well.

I'm sure Motowheels could sell MORE than a few sets of those! You would corner the market in Brembo look 15mm offset/6 hole discs AND offer a product that no one else has. Not in the mood for some innovation and leadership are you Martin?

How about it?
 

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I assume Corse-Dynamics issue is one of material, not time...

I'd like a new set of rotors too but 15mm offset 6 hole... Having a quick look on-line for a set I've read several other recent inquiries for these as well...

If C-D can produce a set on 15mm/6 hole rotors I'd definitely take a set. What would be REALLY cool would be if they could make discs in a different pattern. I know they've done it before (in hideous swirly patterns) so they are able to do it!

So how about some in the a Brembo Wideband look but in road-bike spec? They are one of the coolest looking brake rotors ever made IMO. It's just a shame they are so heavy and you cant use them except with narrowband calipers.

I've just lost my job but as soon s I'm working again I'd take a couple of sets of those (at least)! One in 10mm/5 hole and one in 15mm/6 hole. As long as they were the same Gold as the Brembo ones. And I'd buy at least one set of discs/buttons from you as well.

I'm sure Motowheels could sell MORE than a few sets of those! You would corner the market in Brembo look 15mm offset/6 hole discs AND offer a product that no one else has. Not in the mood for some innovation and leadership are you Martin?

How about it?
If you are looking for the rotors pictured--we have them in stock in 6 hole 10mm offset. I have the same ones on my 996R.

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If you are looking for the rotors pictured--we have them in stock in 6 hole 10mm offset. I have the same ones on my 996R.

-M
However don't they:
1) still need to be used in conjunction with the expensive narrow band calipers? And
2) need to spaced out in order to maintain the 15mm 996R caliper offset? And...
3) Are they not 6mm thick (so they don't warp when racing) and consequently very heavy?

Three problems my suggestion was designed to overcome? If I'm wrong (I know there is a strada version) let me know, and I'll have another look at them.

If I'm right, what do you think about my (above) ideas? Possible?
 

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However don't they:
1) still need to be used in conjunction with the expensive narrow band calipers? And
2) need to spaced out in order to maintain the 15mm 996R caliper offset? And...
3) Are they not 6mm thick (so they don't warp when racing) and consequently very heavy?

Three problems my suggestion was designed to overcome? If I'm wrong (I know there is a strada version) let me know, and I'll have another look at them.

If I'm right, what do you think about my (above) ideas? Possible?
My 996R has a 6 bolt / 10mm offset. I know there are some 996R and most 998R that have the 15mm offset. Have you measured your rotors to be sure?

Sounds like you are looking for some custom made carriers. We can do this- but it can be very expensive to make one-off pieces.

Group buys can help spread the initial cost of the programming and design - but I don't think you will be able to gather enough interest in this thread in the Supersport section. Like the SP rotors, we will need 15 buyers to make a production run.

-M
 
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