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The angle of the handlebars on the Ducati Superbikes are such that they are pointed down much more than on other Superbikes. This caused a lot of stress on my outer wrists on longer rides (my bike: 749).

I ordered a set of Fast by Ferracci (FBF) Handlebars and installed them over the weekend.



Purchased from: Fast by Ferracci through eBay, cost $257 shipped. I paid through PayPal and It arrived very quickly.

Installation time: ~ 90 min (took my time, and that includes getting the bike ready and up on the stands, getting the tools ready, a test ride and putting everything away).

Tools/Equipment needed: Metric Allen wrenches, screwdriver, small metric socket set , rubber mallet, WD-40 (to losen the existing grips), Hairspray (adhesive for the grips), Front Fork/Stem stand, and rear stand (can be done without the stands).

I ordered the tumbled aluminum version ($10 cheaper) rather than the polished ones. The tumbled aluminum version looked pretty ugly. So it took me an additional 20-30min polishing it with some Mother's aluminum polish. By the time I was done, it was transformed into a nice beautiful shiny finish. That was a very noticable aesthetic improvement by the time it was installed.

Installation was very easy, it was my first time doing this kind of thing on a Ducati, and it was easy all the way. You just have to undo all the bolts using the Allen wrenches, screwdriver and socket wrench. I needed the rubber mallet to tap the top triple clamp off. Taking the controls off the stock bars was relatively brainless as well, although a bit tricky on the right side because my brake lines were a tad bit short. They came off anyway.





Installed Review:

- VISUALLY it is hard to tell the difference between the FBF bars and the stock ones. However, the polished finish do stand out nicely to the familiar eye.

- When I first sat on the bike while still in the garage, there is noticable difference in position, no doubt. I would not say its a VAST difference, but noticable enough for me to have been 'generally' satisfied spending $250 bucks plus a couple hours of installation for this improvement. I do wish that I only spent about $120-$150 for this, but anyway ......... I feel like I'm now SITTING ON the bike, rather than LYING DOWN on top of it. My head has more room to turn left and right, something I feel is really important for the street.

- Pulling out of the garage: the new handlebars do not interfere with any other parts of the bike whatsoever when in full-turn, both left and right. However, I do notice now that, at full-turn, there is less room for my hands and forearms, as they now touch the inside of the fairings, they didn't used to. It's no big deal at all, as it does not affect the extent to which the bars can be turned in either direction.



- Test ride. I went out for a few miles to test it out, and I do feel the difference, I feel like I'm sitting taller, I feel like I have a bit more control over the bike and although I wanted it to be just a little higher, I'm pleased with the improvement. I went back to the house to re-tighten and do another check again before I took it out for a longer test ride.

- I went out for about a 30-mile test ride on my favorite roads and some freeway too. I love the fact that because I'm sitting taller, it easier for me to turn my head left and right. At over 70mph, I can begin to feel the wind coming up from the windscreen pushing up against the bottom of my helmet a bit more, but I just sat back a little and that took care of that.

- WRISTS: The main reason why I bought these bars was because of my wrists. No doubt, the fact that the bars are more parallel to the ground (rather than angles towards it, like the stock version) is a VERY GOOD improvement in the position of my wrists. On the stock ones, all my upper body weight is concentrated on the bottom/outer part of my wrists .... on these bars, my weight is more evenly spread across my whole wrist, which is a definitely a nice improvement.

On the twists and turns, I feel like I have BETTER CONTROL on the bike over the stock ones.



Summary:

- I really like the improvement in my body position, but I wish it were a tad bit taller.
- I don't know why Ducati and other sportbike makers make the bars so uncomfortable in the first place. Most Superbike owners will not be racing or even doing track days, so lying down on top of the bike for street use is so impractical. The angle of these Fast by Ferracci bars helps make owning this type of bike a bit more pleasant for normal, sane, human, REALISTIC use
All stock bars should be like this


- The visual improvement is great too.

- I'm happy with the purchase, Fast by Ferracci's quick service, and easy installation.

- Pricewise, I feel that something like this should be under $200. This is my only 'gripe' with it.

Hope this helps.

 

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I really like your visual with the two black horizontal lines. It drives the point home very clearly.

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Great job!

WOW, awesome job migz123! Thanks for thinking of us, a professional job for sure...
Did you compare Heli or Cyclecat before your purchase? And yes I agree, stock bars should be more street friendly....
 

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From what I gather reading Migz' excellent review, the Helibars I have on my 749 are in the exact same position, achive the exact same results and benefits, cost about the same and aren't nearly as nice looking.
 

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Very nice write up and thanks for taking the time. Next to watching WSBK on CD, your write up was the most interesting occurrence today.

I think the Ferracci risers is a much easier install than the Cycle Cats. Much easier and if someone comes back on this post and says they'er not then they are full of it. I'll withdraw that statement if Cycle Cat will come out with some directions half as good as what migz123 laid down here. However, the Cycle Cats do have a bling factor advantage.

I share with you the feeling of sitting taller and the ease of seeing left and right. I liked the fact I didn't have to look up all the time to see the road and in the twisties I could see further ahead and through because I was looking up consistently. I honestly felt I could handle my 900SS better than my 916 because of them.

Now you got me thinking about another upgrade, cha ching.
 
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John is "dead on" with his assessment of the Cycle Cats. Here is my 2 cents on the clip-on replacement topic.

I had my dealer install the Heli's on my 749S before delivery as I've had them on my 996 for 6 years now and have been very satisfied with them. The difference in rise from stock on the 996 is about 2" however only 1" on the 749S. For my purposes the 1" difference was not enough. Before I took my first ride on the 749S I removed the Heli's sold them on ebay and purchased the Cycle Cats.

The finish and the adjustability on the Cycle Cats is top notch however installation is a P.I.T.A. to say the least. Brake and clutch lines must be drained, stock clutch/brake reservoirs need to be replaced, new hoses from the reservoirs to the master cylinders need to be installed and then the fluids need to be replaced and bled. If you're performing this type of work for the first time be prepared for a long and frustrating installation process.

That being said once I got past the cursing and swearing the finished product resulted in a much more comfortable seating position than the Heli's offer for the 749S. The reason being is the replacement Brembo reservoirs supplied with the kit allow the new bars to be set higher providing more clearance from the fairing.

Conclusion: If you're willing to spend more time with a little aggravation the Cycle Cats provide more comfort and adjustability than the Ferracci's or the Heli's.
 

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I'm running the speedymoto upper gull wing triple that give you about an extra 20-25mm rise, however one of the smartest features it has is a longer slot that allows fore-aft roation.

Looks like there still is a locating pin that indexes into the triple on the FBF units?
 

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rocha2000 said:
I'm running the speedymoto upper gull wing triple that give you about an extra 20-25mm rise, however one of the smartest features it has is a longer slot that allows fore-aft roation.

Looks like there still is a locating pin that indexes into the triple on the FBF units?
Yes, I believe so.

It's very interesting that Speedymoto's triple clamp can give you another 20-25mm rise - that's pretty significant, plus they look SO nice! Would you happen to have a picture?
 

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While we're at it, would someone please post some pics of the CycleCat set up installed on a 9 series superbike?
 

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Thanks, but...I still want to see a complete install on a 999 or 749 with the relocated masters and all that. Anybody out there?
 

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So, I installed FBF clip-ons... Same reason basically, my hands were getting numb too quickly and something had to be done. I'm rather short(5-6) so reach was another issue to improve.

I only had one ride on it and here are some impressions on installation and ride.

Installation. Little bit of pain,. Generally pretty straight forward, however, right clip-on didn't have any indentations in it(for throttle and switches positioning) so i had to drill holes.

Ride. Interesting. I think they maybe going a little too high for my taste and i'm still not sure if i like it. Seating position is FAR more comfortable, but riding 916 for past 4 years(about same geometry as 749 with just shorter reach), it feels like i'm on standard bike by comparison. I think it's just the matter of getting used to. Bike now requires significantly less input to steer. I think that's a good thing, but it also needs some getting used to.

There is, however, a rather serious concern for me. In full lock, my wrists are now jammed against the tank. In fact, i cannot really achieve a full lock. With turning radius on Ducs being equivalent of a school bus, i'm kinda worried(esp. making right tight turn as throttle/brake hand will get jammed)

So, jury is still out there
 

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I have the FBF clips ons on my 998... that angle change made a ton of difference... distributes the weight across the wrist, instead of on the outsides of the wrist... longest days I've put on the bike since the install, 2 - 325 mile days without any tears or screaming... :D
 

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FBF with or without bars?

Just read this thread and I'm keen to buy some bar raisers. On the FBF site, I noticed they have raisers that come with and without bars. I assume without means that you use your existing bars? Anyone have any thoughts/comments on this? I'm guessing with bars is an easier installation (no need to swap grips levers etc) and $50 cheaper!

Fast by Feracci
 

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i have the FBFs on my 99ss. i had to tweak the brake res. support to clear the fairing. lovem
 

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I've got a set on my SPS, and I'm not too sure if I really care for them. They tend to rotate my hands outward and cause a bit of shoulder fatigue.
 
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