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I took my 2001 ST4 out for a little spin yesterday. I rarely ride that bike. Maybe 200 miles in past 3 years. I noticed that the key is a little bent. I went on eBay to look for a replacement and found a blank for $30! am I crazy for thinking this excessive or is this the going rate?


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Thanks. Sorry if this is a dumb question but does the 2001 key have a transponder? Here is what it looks like:




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So I’m assuming that I can’t use one of those transponder blanks as a key blank for my 2001? Why would the non-transponder blank be $25 and the transponder blank only $8? Is it because the non-transponder is Ducati OEM?


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Oops. Sorry. Didn't realize you don't need a transponder key.

Anyway, you should still be able to use it. I'm pretty sure the key blade is the same.
 

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On a 2001 ST4, the key is not a xponder key. Use the cheaper one to make a spare. It's merely a mechanical key.
 

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Thanks everyone. I ordered the ‘transponder’ key.


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On a side note to all this, I needed a spare key for a '92 BMW bike I once owned so I ordered a factory blank and visited a nearby and most reputable locksmith shop to have them cut the new key. They took one look at it and said that it's a steel key and would need to charge me $70 over the standard cost because their cutting wheel wears out faster when cutting steel as opposed to the softer aftermarket metal keys one typically finds. I thought they were BS'g me until I visited a few more locksmiths and ended up paying a $45 surcharge. Thought you'd want to know.....
 

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I cut the steel keys for BMW's all the time --But then I have a BMW Motorcycle shop & have the machine to do them
 

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No dice at my local Ace Hdwe

https://www.lockpicks.com/ducati-cloneable-transponder-key-rw-kw17t5-jma.html

Take it to your local hardware store to have it cut and tell them it uses the GM transponder coding so they don't tell you they can't clone a motorcycle key.
Yorik, thanks for the link for the blanks, I ordered and received two. I went to my local Ace Hardware, but was told they “couldn’t” cut my blanks as it was against company policy to cut outside blanks. So I asked “can you get a blank for my Ducati then?” Of course the reply was “no”. So I have the blank you can’t even get and you guys can’t even cut it for me...sheesh. I left doing my best grumpy old man walk :wink2:

My plan B then, I called a local locksmith and explained my deal. They were receptive at least. Hopefully next Saturday I will go to their shop and give it a go.

A question they had, essentially is, do we clone to a specific model or year of GM transponder code. Like pick a 2005 Chevy Impala for instance?
Next, let’s say they mess up the cloning, if I try the key, the bike’s system won’t go into lock down or some other witchcraft will it?

I’m leaving on a two week trip on the 15th and want to take a spare key with me, but don’t want to have a monkey wrench thrown in the mix. Thanks and best regards.
 

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https://www.lockpicks.com/ducati-cloneable-transponder-key-rw-kw17t5-jma.html

Take it to your local hardware store to have it cut and tell them it uses the GM transponder coding so they don't tell you they can't clone a motorcycle key.
Yorik, thanks for the link for the blanks, I ordered and received two. I went to my local Ace Hardware, but was told they “couldn’t” cut my blanks as it was against company policy to cut outside blanks. So I asked “can you get a blank for my Ducati then?” Of course the reply was “no”. So I have the blank you can’t even get and you guys can’t even cut it for me...sheesh. I left doing my best grumpy old man walk <img src="http://www.ducati.ms/forums/images/Ducati_ms_2015/smilies/tango_face_wink.png" border="0" alt="" title="Wink" class="inlineimg" />

My plan B then, I called a local locksmith and explained my deal. They were receptive at least. Hopefully next Saturday I will go to their shop and give it a go.

A question they had, essentially is, do we clone to a specific model or year of GM transponder code. Like pick a 2005 Chevy Impala for instance?
Next, let’s say they mess up the cloning, if I try the key, the bike’s system won’t go into lock down or some other witchcraft will it?

I’m leaving on a two week trip on the 15th and want to take a spare key with me, but don’t want to have a monkey wrench thrown in the mix. Thanks and best regards.
My local ace hardware has the blanks. They have it under “Kawasaki” but it’s definitely the right Silca blank for you.
 

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When my local hardware store cloned the key for me, all they did was put it into a machine which scanned and read the old key and cloned it to the new one. They didn't have to enter any info. It was all done by the machine. You just have to make sure the machine can clone GM keys, that's all.
 

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When my local hardware store cloned the key for me, all they did was put it into a machine which scanned and read the old key and cloned it to the new one. They didn't have to enter any info. It was all done by the machine. You just have to make sure the machine can clone GM keys, that's all.
https://www.lockpicks.com/ducati-cloneable-transponder-key-rw-kw17t5-jma.html

Take it to your local hardware store to have it cut and tell them it uses the GM transponder coding so they don't tell you they can't clone a motorcycle key.
Thanks Yorik, This worked very well for me as well. Local locksmith charged me $25 per key and they work perfectly. A bargain in my book.

If anyone else in the greater St. Louis area is interested in doing this, Nick at "A Complete Lock and Key" is the guy to call (314-423-3720). He's ordering more blanks based on the success of the job he did for me.

Thanks,
Brad-in-STL
 
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