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Can any of you Duc experts here shed some light on the differences in these two options? I want to upgrade the exhaust on my 999 but don't really know which direction to go. How about some Pros and Cons?

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There has been some discussion in the past about the looks of the two! the remus looking more like the exhaust on the 916 styled model,but some prefer the stock look. I beleive the Remus is louder and i can't imagine the HP gain is gonna be much different between the two. I bought the remus i love the way it looks and sounds incredible and the main reason for me was $$$. I saved about $500 buying the remus versus the termi for my yr model!
 

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Rem Vs Term

I Am Looking At The Same Disition On My 749dark.
The Added Appeal As Well The Extra Hp Is Enough To Say Yes To Both. Old School Look With Dual Remy Pipes Or Racer X(everybody Sports) Termi's? Money Is Always A Factor But I'm Leaning To Titanum Remus Because Less Riders Sport The Look ... And I Want To Stand Out Not Fall In Line. All Bow Down To The Great Terminio! I'm Following A Few Club Owners Around And Asking Them The Anoing Questions. One Bought His 749 With Termi And The Other Just Got Them On Ebay Last Week. In Botth Cases Well Be Enough Info To Make My Desition.
 
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Remus has a cool look and is loads cheaper than Termi. I have found that the Remus perform the same if not better than Termi. The licence bracket is bulky on the Remus but I have made custom ones and just found out Remus has a new race version which l has no licence provision. That way the sky is the limit on what you can create for a licence bracket. I sell both Termi and Remus Check it out -Ken http://www.superbikeitalia.com/projects/?id=19
 

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Thanks for the input guys... I am looking to maybe get this done at the 600 mile mark.

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pLUS oNE fOR tHE rEMUS. aLTHOUGH iT wAS a pAIN tO iNSTALL, tHE sOUND iS iNCREDIBLE!
Hey Kabinkski~ Do you have a shot of that from the rear? Is that the stock license plate mount?

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Here you go. I modified the included license plate bracket by cutting off a big part of it. I did this in order to use the evoluzione plate bracket/fender eliminator I had on prior to installing the Remus. After cutting, I used a dremel tool sanding/grinding bit to smooth things out and put a rounded edge on each side. Then I sanded it down to where it looks like a factory piece. I also had to drill a hole through the bracket in order for the license plate bulb to fit through. I've also attached a pic of CHRISMI's bike (I hope he doesn't mind) to show you the difference in the plate locations.

As stated in my last 'gramatically joking' post, the sound of the Remus is great. It's loud, but not obnoxiously so. Very nice rumble at idle that transforms into a nice growl when you get on it. I also installed a PCIII USB. Ken at Superbike Italia was kind enough to email me the custom map they came up with for their own '04 999 w/Remus. I installed that map and everything seems to be working just fine (Thanks again Ken!). If you do the Remus and install a PCIII and you'd like the map, let me know and I'll email it to you.
 

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Here you go. I modified the included license plate bracket by cutting off a big part of it. I did this in order to use the evoluzione plate bracket/fender eliminator I had on prior to installing the Remus. After cutting, I used a dremel tool sanding/grinding bit to smooth things out and put a rounded edge on each side. Then I sanded it down to where it looks like a factory piece. I also had to drill a hole through the bracket in order for the license plate bulb to fit through. I've also attached a pic of CHRISMI's bike (I hope he doesn't mind) to show you the difference in the plate locations.

As stated in my last 'gramatically joking' post, the sound of the Remus is great. It's loud, but not obnoxiously so. Very nice rumble at idle that transforms into a nice growl when you get on it. I also installed a PCIII USB. Ken at Superbike Italia was kind enough to email me the custom map they came up with for their own '04 999 w/Remus. I installed that map and everything seems to be working just fine (Thanks again Ken!). If you do the Remus and install a PCIII and you'd like the map, let me know and I'll email it to you.
Thanks Bro~ I am pretty sure this is the route I am going to go. I really appreciate all the info and the extra pics.... Huge help!
 

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You're welcome. You may want to click on my profile and search all my recent posts regarding this topic. I asked a lot of questions and stumbled across a few problems along the way. From my own experience and many others, the Remus is not a piece of cake to get right. If you go back and read up on those posts you will see what I'm talking about. I'd also recommend going to the www.speedzilla.com message board and looking at my recent posts there as well. You will find a lot of valuable info that will help you if you run into some of the same issues I did. Good luck.

BTW, is that your "Randy Rhoads" flying V in your avatar?
 

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BTW, is that your "Randy Rhoads" flying V in your avatar?

It was.... I sold it awhile back to a guy in California..... Man do I miss that guitar.
 

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One thing to keep in your mind when buying a full-system.

Do you think there is a reason why most MotoGP and WSBK teams use Termignoni for exhaust´s, just like they use Öhlins for the suspension?
 

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I haven't installed the Remus but I have parked my bike side by side with one and compared. That's kind of an ironic statement as there was no comparison. I will admit I do really like the looks of the Remus and some days wish I had gotten that one but there's no comparison to the quality of the Termi system. Even my full system was an absolute dream to install. Not a single four letter word during the whole process. IMO, the Remus is a little louder at idle than the Termi but the sound is kinda "ratty" for lack of a better word. It doesn't have that refined, "I belong on this bike" kinda sound, but still not bad, just different. The wife filmed me coming around a curve one day and I was carrying about 6,500rpms or so through the curve and back on the throttle back out the other side. When I finally got home and saw it, or rather heard it I should say, I couldn't believe how loud and how it sounded. It was awe inspiring. It was like a 12 second clip and I just kept playing it over and over and over. I was like "dang!! That's what everyone else gets to hear"
 

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I didn't read all of the previous posts so please forgive me if I mention something that was alerady mentioned.

The Termi is a completly different quality level than the Remus.

Termi is comparable with Arrow or Akro, or Tigcraft (buy one of these)

Remus is comparable to Forza or 2 Brothers (don't buy one of these)

If you judge a pipe (a PERFORMANCE mod) based soley on sound, keep the stock pipe, remove the baffles/packing and put a Termi sticker on it...

If you want it to actually IMPROVE the performance of the bike, get a good chip to go with it (or custom map), have the fuel pressure checked, synch the TB's and have a qualified tech put it on a dyno to get it all working together properly.
 

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hank said:
I didn't read all of the previous posts so please forgive me if I mention something that was alerady mentioned.

The Termi is a completly different quality level than the Remus.

Termi is comparable with Arrow or Akro, or Tigcraft (buy one of these)

Remus is comparable to Forza or 2 Brothers (don't buy one of these)

If you judge a pipe (a PERFORMANCE mod) based soley on sound, keep the stock pipe, remove the baffles/packing and put a Termi sticker on it...

If you want it to actually IMPROVE the performance of the bike, get a good chip to go with it (or custom map), have the fuel pressure checked, synch the TB's and have a qualified tech put it on a dyno to get it all working together properly.
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kabinski said:
Here you go. I modified the included license plate bracket by cutting off a big part of it. I did this in order to use the evoluzione plate bracket/fender eliminator I had on prior to installing the Remus. After cutting, I used a dremel tool sanding/grinding bit to smooth things out and put a rounded edge on each side. Then I sanded it down to where it looks like a factory piece. I also had to drill a hole through the bracket in order for the license plate bulb to fit through. I've also attached a pic of CHRISMI's bike (I hope he doesn't mind) to show you the difference in the plate locations.

As stated in my last 'gramatically joking' post, the sound of the Remus is great. It's loud, but not obnoxiously so. Very nice rumble at idle that transforms into a nice growl when you get on it. I also installed a PCIII USB. Ken at Superbike Italia was kind enough to email me the custom map they came up with for their own '04 999 w/Remus. I installed that map and everything seems to be working just fine (Thanks again Ken!). If you do the Remus and install a PCIII and you'd like the map, let me know and I'll email it to you.
I don't mind at all Kabinski and thanks for the comparison between your modified bracket and my stock one. I think i will do the same thing since i have an evoluzione piece laying around somewhere!
And to respond to some of the other posts,Termignoni belongs on the bike but i wanted something different and didn't mind the money savings on top of that. I wouldn't trade my remus system for a termi full system but thats just me get what you like and what fits in your budget. I wish i could have two 749's,one with each system then i'd be truly happy but then i'd have to live with my mom 'cause i'd get kicked out of the house for sure,lol!!
 

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hank said:
Remus is comparable to Forza or 2 Brothers (don't buy one of these)

If you judge a pipe (a PERFORMANCE mod) based soley on sound, keep the stock pipe, remove the baffles/packing and put a Termi sticker on it...

Dissagree with both of these. Remus would still have been a close second choice for me over any other. And you better believe my inspiration for buying and exhaust was based on sound. Stock mufflers with the baffles removed sounds very...different. Pick your budget and then decide what look you like. The Remus would actually probably benefit you low and mid range over the Termi. As far as looks, Termi or Remus is the only way to go. Funny that I like both looks alot considering how different they are. Stay away from Zard/Akra/Leo/Sil...now that's ugly.
 

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And you better believe my inspiration for buying and exhaust was based on sound.

Fair enough, different people have different criteria for mods and I can appreciate your inspiration. I have a buddy with a set of Remus cans on his 996 (he had to disconnect injectors or something like that to get them working properly).

They do sound great - deep & throaty.

My criteria for mods is very simplistic: lower lap times - and I acheive it primarily by A) better handeling in turns and B) faster speed-up/slow-down in the straights.
 

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One thing to keep in your mind when buying a full-system.

Do you think there is a reason why most MotoGP and WSBK teams use Termignoni for exhaust´s, just like they use Öhlins for the suspension?
+1

However, buy the 54mm system not the 57mm system. The 57mm system is tough on the fairing!!!
 

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The 57 would also be waaaay to big for a 749 street bike...or was this thread started for that other bike??
 

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amullo said:
One thing to keep in your mind when buying a full-system.

Do you think there is a reason why most MotoGP and WSBK teams use Termignoni for exhaust´s, just like they use Öhlins for the suspension?
ducati performance is the reason more than any other.sorry but you guys think too much of termis build quality,they are ok.but the ti cans have a reputation of cracking,and the welds don't hold a candle to many other exhausts.i would venture to guess most aftermarket systems will give the same increase in power with a proper pc3 and a dyno tune.(with same size tube)
 
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