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I'm thinking we could benefit from a new sticky for our ST's "Equivilent Parts" from Napa or where ever.



Just in the last few weeks we seen this discussed on our fuel pumps, relays, fuel level sensors, oil prssure senders, and upper rocker bearings. ... and that's just what I can remember ....


It's real hard to keep track of this and I've been trying to keep a copy of this info somewhere but I it keeps getting dis-orginized.


A sticky would allow us to have this info from remote locations and minimize time if we need a part on the road.


What's the best way to accomplish this ?

I'm willing to help in any way I can, if people can start adding to this thread perhaps we could put them all in a single post ?


JimS


- Tonered - you always seem to have the zoom lens on this type of info
 

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For the sake of the community, I've attached a document originally produced by a UK Ducati Owners Group. It covers many Ducati models, but is now quite out of date (2004). Some of the items seem quite suspicious and would require verification. I have added a few notes here and there as well.

Nonetheless, in hopes of not reinventing the wheel, elements of this list should be factored into any sticky list.

Ron
 

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Ha! That's because I'm too damn cheap to use those Duc parts. =P
NAPA TS5520 for the coolant sensors. As was mentioned, the probe is larger, but doesn't seem to affect anything.
NAPA OP6172 for the oil pressure switch. You'll most likely need to crimp on a new connector. I did.
Most any Ford fuel pump. Rangers and Mustangs come to mind. Just remove the inlet screen and rubber cover. Take the pump with you and go home only $20 lighter. There's a thread in the SBK forum with many other auto equivalents. I've linked it a few times.
Don't foget that the wheel bearings are very common. Although, desmotimes now sells them for $12.50/per wheel. That's much less than NAPA.
Then, the universally known NAPA fuel filter. 3032? Check me on that.
Ron or Stick has a link to the fuel hose from FRS sport.com
A Porsche 924 airfilter is equivalent for some STs.

Now, if only there was an automotive equivalent for our fairings. LOL!

Have a good one.
 

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I was thinking the Sticky would be a "locked"single post and we should have a list ready to post which could be added to all the time as new equvilent part #'s pop up.

C-man, that's some great info and deserves a sticky of it's own, but imho it's somewhat outside the scope of being able to walk into a napa or other store and ask for it.


something like this:

fuel pump relay-
- Bosch 0332204103, 0332204182
- GM 12065115, 12077874, 12129073
- Std Motors products RY241


shock linkage rocker arm bearings
- (4) HK1812 Needle bearings 18x24x12

fuel filter
- napa 3032 gold
- wix No. 33032

oil pressure sensor
- NAPA/Echlin brand part number OP6172

in-tank r10 fuel line
- napa NBH H209 (1ft)

Bosch fuel pump
- Advance Auto Parts / Bosch Part # 69238

coolant sensors
- NAPA TS5520





things like this that we can go the store and pick up if needed.


Does any have the front / rear wheel bearing #'s? the cush drive bearing #'s.

Is there an equvilent Solenoid ?? with/without wire resister pigtail ?
 

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fuel pump relay-
-Hella 4RD 960 388-13, HL87405
- Bosch 0332204103, 0332204182
- GM 12065115, 12077874, 12129073
- Std Motors products RY241

For the ignition relay (2 - "87" terminals and no "87a" terminal):
GM - 20414941
Tyco - V23234-C1001-X006
Bosch - 0 332 019 155
Hella - 87453
Napa AR274 or sku 707390822143

Oil Filters
• AMSOil SMF 132/132C
• EMGO 10-26980
• Fram PH6019, PH6074
• K&N KN-153
• NAPA 7013
• WIX 57013

shock linkage rocker arm bearings
- (4) HK1812 Needle bearings 18x24x12

fuel filter
- napa 3032 gold
- wix No. 33032

oil pressure sensor
- NAPA/Echlin brand part number OP6172

in-tank r10 fuel line
- napa NBH H209 (1ft)

Bosch fuel pump
- Advance Auto Parts / Bosch Part # 69238

coolant sensors
- NAPA TS5520

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Tonered,

- yea if you've got planned maintenace, going to LT (which I do) is a good bet ...

..but I'm thinking if you're busted down on the road, you might not be able to mail-order the best deal, most areas have an internet connection and someone dealing bearings nearby.
I get what you're saying. Ducaitwiki.com lists the wheel and throwout bearings.

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Rear wheel bearing part number is 6005 2RS C3V2

I think the front wheel bearings are the same.

Why don't we have a sticky or similar for workshop, parts book & owners manuals available as well?

Craig
 

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Some ST's ?
I haven't checked, but I assumed that the air filters were all the same.
Ace tip thoughTony, I've just found new ones on ebay for £4.99 ($8.22)
Hey Mark,

Some STs have a rib in the airbox that prevents the installation, if I remember correctly. But then, it is something a rotary tool could fix.

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Hi Guys
your ideas are excellent, it's a pity I live in OZ instead of near some of you fellas.
I have a 1998 st2 which has recently had a new yuasa battery fitted, it is having troubles starting and the battery is being drained, no one in this town can put a finger on it but some of the guesses are: its the relay, its the voltage rectifier, its broken fuses and so on...
If only I could get the help to find the problem I would be able to look for an alternative better priced replacement part..
Cheers from downunder Ducati Dave in need of help!
Dave,

Go to the Yuasa website and download their battery specs. You can then compare those to what is available locally. The rare aspect for the ST is the width. I recently installed a 12Ah YT14B-4 or something like that. I can get you the exact one a bit later. It is a bit taller, but the same length and width.

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Go to the Yuasa website and download their battery specs. You can then compare those to what is available locally. The rare aspect for the ST is the width. I recently installed a 12Ah YT14B-4 or something like that.
Anyone with the longer battery as used in the '97-'00 ST2 and ST4 bikes that wants a better battery selection with AGM or gel batteries can update their bike with the smaller battery used on many other Ducatis as stated in this post in the battery sticky...


http://www.ducati.ms/forums/40-sport-touring/112342-important-battery-info-st2-st3-st4-st4s-2.html#post1133688
 

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Rear wheel bearing part number is 6005 2RS C3V2

I think the front wheel bearings are the same.

Why don't we have a sticky or similar for workshop, parts book & owners manuals available as well?

Craig
Just got quoted $49.00 each bearing by Ducati dealer, picked them up for $6.70 each at a local bearing supplier.

It pays to shop around.

Craig
 

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Anyone with the longer battery as used in the '97-'00 ST2 and ST4 bikes that wants a better battery selection with AGM or gel batteries can update their bike with the smaller battery used on many other Ducatis as stated in this post in the battery sticky...


http://www.ducati.ms/forums/40-sport-touring/112342-important-battery-info-st2-st3-st4-st4s-2.html#post1133688
Definitely. The one I mentioned is an AGM battery. It packs 2Ah more than the YT12B-BS.

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NAPA TS5520 temp curve

I picked up a NAPA coolant sensor - $27.55 with tax, and the NAPA guy brought it to his house so I would'nt have to ride a half hour to the store <g>...
I'm attaching a temp curve I ran for it - does anyone have a temp curve for the OEM part to compare this to? At 68 room temp in the air it sat at 2370 ohms. I started in water at 100 degrees and measured one data set going up to boiling, and another data set going back down. When the water had been boiling for awhile and the sensor settled down it was at 183 ohms.
 

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This is a great idea.
Anything further happening with it - like a sticky or consolidation of the list somewhere?
Something else to add:

fuel pump o-ring
- McMaster Carr # 9464K548, $12 per 5 pack
- Viton (Fluorocarbon) O-Ring (black) AS568A-247, 4-7/8 inch O.D. by 4-5/8 inch I.D. by 1/8 inch wide
 

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I picked up a NAPA coolant sensor - $27.55 with tax, and the NAPA guy brought it to his house so I would'nt have to ride a half hour to the store <g>...
I'm attaching a temp curve I ran for it - does anyone have a temp curve for the OEM part to compare this to? At 68 room temp in the air it sat at 2370 ohms. I started in water at 100 degrees and measured one data set going up to boiling, and another data set going back down. When the water had been boiling for awhile and the sensor settled down it was at 183 ohms.
No, but you could probably just offset the curve 25deg lower. ;)

On that note given the 30deg temps that we are seeing, I am not feeling the need to tape up the radiator with the NAPA sensors installed. The throttle response is excellent in the cold. Not mushy as it was with the original parts.

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Thanks to Derek for sourcing these part#'s.

Replacement seat pin's from a newer Super Sport will fit right up.
Part no. 829.2.232.1A list's for $ 26.00 dollars. The attachment screws are part # 777.5.049.2C and list for 50 cents each.

EDIT! The notch that is cut into the pin for proper engagement into the latch is 180 degrees out, it can be rotated to fit properly.
 

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I'm feeling confident enough to add the oil cooler o-rings to this thread.

Parker series 5-204 o-rings are replacements for the Duc o-rings leading to the oil cooler on some bikes. It seems that they changed the fittings over the years. Mine had two o-rings on each hose fitting that mates to the threaded fittings just forward of the oil pump.

These o-rings are NOT the standard AS568A type. Those have a minimum width of 1/8in. The Parker series 5-204 are 0.036in wide. You can see these in the linked spec:
http://www.darcoid.com/images/uploads/pdfs/5-XXX%20sizes.pdf

The ones I orders are non-viton and a tad smaller I.D. compared to the originals. The Parker series 5-209 might work and be the same I.D., but I have not tried these.

It seems that prices can vary wildly for these. I found 12 of them for $20, delivered.

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