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Can anyone tell me where is the location of the above and what needs to be removed? Just received my Termi slip on and dont want to play where is Waldo with the ECU and air filter.

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Can anyone tell me where is the location of the above and what needs to be removed? Just received my Termi slip on and dont want to play where is Waldo with the ECU and air filter.

Thank you in advance
I had the same question and asked my service guy. The air filter is under the black plastic covers/air intakes just below the front of the gas tank. I think you can just remove a cover and slide it out.

The ECU is under the tank someplace, but I have no idea how to get the tank off. It clearly is a harder proposition than my old monster, which just had one latch to lift up.

BTW, where did you get your Termis?
 

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ECU is under the main seat. I thinkpart of the tail section needs to be removed to get at it.
 

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Thank you for all the help.

Just a quick FYI on the location of the ECU and air filter:

Air filter is located on the right side of the tank, just remove the cover that is being held by three screws and the filter just slides out. (excuse the crappy phone photos)


ECU is located under the seat. Lift up the rear edge of the seat and you will find a bolt that is holding each side, just remove and slide the seat out.



The ECU is wedge below the battery and some fuse thingymajingy. I didnt get a chance to take it off (going for a ride) because from the looks of it , there are two bolts that is holding the ECU in place and there is no way to get it out without removing the battery and the fuses on top (im guessing). I'll deal with it later when i get more information and will update or if anyone knows please kindly share.



I won/bought the termi on Ebay from Riverside Moto in MA. Kit contained the air filter, ECU and the two exhaust with the baffles pre installed (i removed them). No instructions, just some random notes letting you know that you bought a high performance parts and that it conforms to yadayadayada. The exhaust and air filter are fairly easy to install, just remove and replace. The ECU..well thats another story.

 

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As you can see with the termi ecu, the bolt holes in the ecu tell you where you have to gain access too. Remember the ecu ground is for the ecu, don't forget that it hooks up to the ecu... NOT the battery. Since you are in the habit of snapping shots, take a shot of the ecu in place so you can see how cables are run, if you move stuff around to get at it, your pic can be the road map to salvation. Let us know how it runs!! You will need a TPS reset though!!!
 

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As you can see with the termi ecu, the bolt holes in the ecu tell you where you have to gain access too. Remember the ecu ground is for the ecu, don't forget that it hooks up to the ecu... NOT the battery. Since you are in the habit of snapping shots, take a shot of the ecu in place so you can see how cables are run, if you move stuff around to get at it, your pic can be the road map to salvation. Let us know how it runs!! You will need a TPS reset though!!!
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Will do, im going to stop by my dealer after a quick ride and gather some info. Be back in a few:)
 

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Dealer can reset the TPS in about umm 30 seconds. Diagnostic plug under the seat.
 

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I,m sorry but the build quality on those Termis looks doubtful..
I somewhat agree with you, I was never a big fan of Termignoni and I believe that for the dollar, there are better choices from other manufacturers. But, since our SF is relatively new (6 weeks old), our choices are limited to what is being offered now. Termignoni is the only exhaust (that I know) that is currently available for our SF and even so, its very hard to find in my area (norcal).

To me, its worth it for the following reasons; The stock exhaust blows, I was lucky to find one, my purchase price was only a few dollars over dealers cost (i checked my own dealers cost sheet), I didnt have to pay the awful 9+% CA sales tax, it comes with the ECU and air filter and most importantly, my purchase price was only a few dollars over dealers cost (i checked my own dealers cost sheet).

Small sound clip. Sound louder in person, it was taken with a not so good P&S.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uABkytimxYI
 

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asado,

From previous posts... with the Termi slip ons, you get an ecu, but are the O2 sensors still mandatory? I recall someone posting they were.

If that is the case, I will wait for arrow to have a full exhaust and buy just the racing ecu for the S model. I'm actually pleased with the sound clip, usually they sound f-d up, and that did not. It does sound like it freed up the bike from the stock exhaust some.

I'm starting to run into the same thing as I did on my S2R, any "at speed" time, you can't hear where the engine is at. I like to hear where the engine is at. I may eat my words of wanting to remain stealthy because at even 65mph -8%, you hear the wind and no bike. With ear plugs, you hear nothing.

Let us know how the motor feels with the new cans. Congrats!!!
 

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asado,

From previous posts... with the Termi slip ons, you get an ecu, but are the O2 sensors still mandatory? I recall someone posting they were.

If that is the case, I will wait for arrow to have a full exhaust and buy just the racing ecu for the S model. I'm actually pleased with the sound clip, usually they sound f-d up, and that did not. It does sound like it freed up the bike from the stock exhaust some.

I'm starting to run into the same thing as I did on my S2R, any "at speed" time, you can't hear where the engine is at. I like to hear where the engine is at. I may eat my words of wanting to remain stealthy because at even 65mph -8%, you hear the wind and no bike. With ear plugs, you hear nothing.

Let us know how the motor feels with the new cans. Congrats!!!
The O2 sensors are still intact with the slip-ons. Maybe with the full system its not needed? As i recall, the Quat-D Ex-box on my previous S4RS came with a plug if you want to delete the 02 sensor. I dont know if there are any gains by running with or without the sensor so I just left sensor intact.

The Termi is fairly loud (more like a rumble) at cruising speed and louder at full throttle. I actually like it, gets the cagers attention and let them know that im there.

I have an appt on Tuesday to get the ECU installed unless, someone here can share the process of removing the stock one. Just dont want to chance removing parts that I can't place back.

A few more decent photos.




 

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How to replace ECU

Figured it out with the help of Derick of motolab (in redwood city CA).

We unfortunately followed the instructions and took out the entire rear seat and tail assembly (according to the workshop manual).

Not needed...

Just take the seat out and then take out the 4 black boxes sitting on top of the ECU

Unplug the blue and green ECU connectors (the ones with the fancy wires)

Then take out the two bolts and the ecu comes out diagonally

Then put the new one and put the other stuff back.
 

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Sorry, I must not have been clear enough... The thing is, you dont even need to remove the battery and the pillion seat and all that.

Just the rider's seat, thats all.
You're right, of course...just showing you that a search of the FAQs would have saved you some heartburn....:D
 

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Once you figure out the little latches on the fuse and relay boxes, the rest is simple. Make sure that you replace the ground wire on the LH ECU mounting bolt when assembling.
 
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