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Ducabike rearsets for Hyper 950: Disappointed.

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Discussion Starter · 2 mo ago

So I bought those fully adjustible ones, for Hyper 950. I bought, specifically because I have had trouble with stock ones, mostly on the track where I cannot lean as much due to stock levers and pegs scrubbing.

Naturally, these Ducabike ones looked LeGiT, track pro kinda tools .... I didn't really study enough of their drawings tbh before purchasing.

So here I'm , first track day with new Ducabike reasets (which after tax & shipping ended up over a fkn AUD$ grand here), and i'm digging in with the same fkn gear & brake levers into tarmac! That is with those tiny toe pegs on them levers all way up as possible, to increase clearance.
No issue with the foot pegs themselves, as these can be adjusted and moved higher, but, the gear shifter and rear brakes you cannot make them higher. While possibly, you could , maaaay be, by changing the gear shift arm angle move that lever up, that will screw up the recommended angle to the gearbox of that shifter, and likely will screw up all your shifting.

HUGELY, biggly, fkn dissapointed...

And On top of that, the Quality of these parts seems .. well, crap. Just after 2 sessions or so on track, and touching / scrubbing these levers in few corners, that movable / adjustable (in red color on pics) arm on them got bent on one side, and bent AND cracked (yes, there is a crack visible) on the other side... C'mmon ...
Is this the "awesome" Ducabike Italian quality ..? really ? Are these just another bling-bling accessory then ...

The stock levers just grind off, but they do not break... For hugely lower price ...

And to finally top this off, Now I cannot find Any spare levers for these Ducabikes for sale just by themsleves .. fk aweomse..

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Discussion Starter · #2 · 2 mo ago (Edited)

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With the yellow marker, I’m trying to highlight where it cracked , also on one pic with yellow line next to lever to show it’s not straight … bent .

Weak quality …..😖😖

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RoelS

· #3 · 2 mo ago

That's very disappointing!
I hear a lot about Ducabike just being "bling"; it just fails when it has to do any more work then a trip to Starbucks.
I was planning on buying their spiderless slipper clutch in the near future, but I'm starting to really reconsider that, although I haven't heard anything negative about that particular item.

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araitim

· #4 · 2 mo ago

Ducabike just has good advertising to get people to buy. Most of their parts aren't that great in quality/functionality (at least the parts I have been in contact with). The CNC racing uses the same design as the Ducabike so you would likely have the same issue. AEM, Bonamichi or Woodcraft would be what I would get.

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ducvet

· #5 · 2 mo ago

Race parts are built for track use which should increase clearance as well as have spares for when they eventually get damaged.

Bling parts are made to look like race parts to the untrained eye but do not have a reason to BE better just look better and have zero support after they get damaged.

Too many owners buy based on
1. price
2. looks

Though spending a lot does not always protect you, I have a monster in the shop on its third set of Rizomas due to him falling on the same side and he cannot buy pieces for $$$. Always ask questions before spending your $$

I recommend you talk to the local racers or track guys running rearsets on your bike to find what works best and has replaceable bits. Here it is woodcraft but it may be different where you are, I can get you pictures of woodcraft on a non-eo 1100 in the shop if you wish but again if they are not used near you I would not choose them. We use woodcraft mostly around here in part because most riders here are racing or using them on the track so there are spares in most peoples trailers if you are needing something. Your local area may have something similar.

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Discussion Starter · #6 · 2 mo ago (Edited)

araitim said:
Ducabike just has good advertising to get people to buy. Most of their parts aren't that great in quality/functionality (at least the parts I have been in contact with). The CNC racing uses the same design as the Ducabike so you would likely have the same issue. AEM, Bonamichi or Woodcraft would be what I would get.

yea Woodcraft I had on my track bike before, and was something I looked at before looking at these Ducabikes, but, mate, they don't make any for Hyper 950 ;( (As last I checked ..)
I do understand that this is not something of a track bike, so I bet interest is little to none.
But suprisingly I saw that older Hypers, like 1100, there seems more manufacturers made sets for those.

And as I just re-checked, Woodcraft don't have any for 950, the 939 is the last Hm they make them for.

v01d

Discussion Starter · #7 · 2 mo ago

So just in Case , you wondering what it costs to replace those red shafts?
As I got quoted direct from Ducabike:
52,50 €. , for both, Before shipping and import tax.
Shipping to me is another 30 Eur, tax approx 10%
So this one easy day at track with no crashing thus, just by using these rearset parts adds ....~91 EUR,. .. Or AUD $162..
😒 Ghet Fked.

Oh yea, and toe pegs as seen also fked, so you would need to add about ~19 EUR per each if you want them..

Btw, I considered folding pegs, as these make more sense, guess how much they are ? Forty-Six Eur EACH, Y_e_s, before tax & shiping ... RPPIR01E - PIOLINO PIEGHEVOLE SBK - Ducabike

So. I'm seeing that, tracking Hyper might be incredably stupid idea.. Even for fun.

Now I have to get replacement parts to get them fixed and likely sell... If I find anything better or just go back to stock ones

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DAT118

· #8 · 2 mo ago (Edited)

v01d said:
yea Woodcraft I had on my track bike before, and was something I looked at before looking at these Ducabikes, but, mate, they don't make any for Hyper 950 ;( (As last I checked ..)
I do understand that this is not something of a track bike, so I bet interest is little to none.
But suprisingly I saw that older Hypers, like 1100, there seems more manufacturers made sets for those.

And as I just re-checked, Woodcraft don't have any for 950, the 939 is the last Hm they make them for.

I’ve seen a guy put the AEM rearset for HM950 on his 821. I’m pretty sure those rearsets are interchangeable among those models (except HM1100). You might want to study the diagram of 821/939 and 950 and see if you want to put the Woodcraft on your bike.

And to comment on the Ducabike quality, I think their quality isn’t on par with CNCRacing or other competitors. I’ve mostly stayed away from their products. I don’t do trackday so footpeg and levers clearance us not a big issue for me. Although I upgraded to CNC Racing brake/gear levers so they can fold themselves if I accidentally drop the bike.

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Discussion Starter · #9 · 2 mo ago

DAT118 said:
I’ve seen a guy put the AEM rearset for HM950 on his 821. I’m pretty sure those rearsets are interchangeable among those models (except HM1100). You might want to study the diagram of 821/939 and 950 and see if you want to put the Woodcraft on your bike.

And to comment on the Ducabike quality, I think their quality isn’t on par with CNCRacing or other competitors. I’ve mostly stayed away from their products. I don’t do trackday so footpeg and levers clearance us not a big issue for me. Although I upgraded to CNC Racing brake/gear levers so they can fold themselves if I accidentally drop the bike.

Interesting stuff, thanks... I might just drop an email to Woodcrafts may be, to check that 939/950 compatabilty.

But i think at this moment I also need to review what I'm doing with my Hyper. Whole use-case might be getting it wrong.

JFlo

· #10 · 2 mo ago

I've got the CNC rearsets and feel about the same. Not nearly as much adjustability as I had expected. Fit and finish is outstanding, but I bought them to customize my position. Oh well.

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Discussion Starter · #11 · 2 mo ago

JFlo said:
I've got the CNC rearsets and feel about the same. Not nearly as much adjustability as I had expected. Fit and finish is outstanding, but I bought them to customize my position. Oh well. View attachment 1062335

That pedal looks very similar as Ducabikes one .... May be designed / made by same guys ..?

DAT118

· #12 · 2 mo ago

Many blings from CNCRacing and Ducabike share the same design, just different laser engraving and color combination. I suspect they all make those from the same file then anode to their choices.

And attached is HM821 with HM950 rearsets.

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Discussion Starter · #13 · 2 mo ago

Oh nice to see, @DAT118

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Discussion Starter · #14 · 2 mo ago

DAT118 said:
Many blings from CNCRacing and Ducabike share the same design,

Not quiiteee the same pedal levers. I'mlooking at it, and if I understand right the place where those 3 screw in a triangle , thats where it gets joned. So the pedal lever seems more , err, simpler.
So if I had mate who could just take that piece, map it as is to a CAD, then may be bend it up by 2 ~ 5 Deg angle up. May be 2 is enough, and won't interfer with anything.

May be sould have looked at CNC first..

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Discussion Starter · #15 · 2 mo ago

I just learned something new this week ... I mean, i kind of read it 10 times before, but didn't think about it.

The SP model, with full Ohlins, is a taller bike, it has more suspension travel. Apparently this taller translates to a greater lean angle by 3 degrees, apparently ..

So, I wonder, having the non-Sp model, do all of you guys lucky SP owners, may be that's the reason none of you have any clearance issues with rear sets on track.

gamingthemarket

· #16 · 2 mo ago

Gecko Racing might work for your needs. Mine are almost too high at the lowest setting on a 939 SP. Email them and see what happens. They were super responsive when I got a set two years ago.

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Discussion Starter · #17 · 2 mo ago

gamingthemarket said:
Gecko Racing might work for your needs. Mine are almost too high at the lowest setting on a 939 SP. Email them and see what happens. They were super responsive when I got a set two years ago.

Nice found !

Hey, I actually did find them about 2 months ago.

I have emailed them back then, and never heard back ..... So you know, if they don't bother replying, then well, not gonna push it.

Althought they do seem properely focused on track use, perhaps I should try phone them.

fastgas

· #18 · 2 mo ago

I hate to sound like an ass, but what's your overall body position? I find it very hard to believe that you're scraping hard parts like that with good BP.

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Discussion Starter · #19 · 2 mo ago

fastgas said:
I hate to sound like an ass, but what's your overall body position? I find it very hard to believe that you're scraping hard parts like that with good BP.

Lol, that's Ok, you dont sound like an ass. Everybody, even guys who just read how-to-ride book always ask about body position.

My body position can always be improved, that's just fact. But doesnt' take away from how easy it is to scrap with this bike. You say you find it hard to believe, well just lean it to believe it

. I have found another guy on a forum with standard Hyper, who just took it to track and has problem with pegs (at least not the levers...)

Again, as I wrote, all depends on the corner, lean etc... Road riding, I never touch anything. Race tracks - some, some places / corners, some lines. Lines I would have taken at proper track bike I cannot take same with Hyper same.

My toes position - yes, on the footpegs - can also be improved, as per best guides, but at the moment I simply cannot do more about toes ( may be years of Yoga..) . So with Hyper standard footpegs for example, my race boots toe sliders would be just scrapped too much at a full track day, a complete ass. So the toes thing got sorted out witih the Ducabikes, because I moved the pegs higher up, and it Sorted. Yes, nothing to add, that worked.

The brake / gear lever, not so much yet. Brake I think i can pull up a nitch easy, gear lever not so much.
Ducabike has sent me shorter version of those pins (pegs on levers), and I think that could also work better.

It's also interesting that, the standard , "red" hyper, has less of suspesion travel and less total height. I think SP version with full Ohlins is what they made ready for track. The spec says 3 deg more lean on the SP, so that may sound marginal but at already high lean angle that may be huge..

So yes, I need improvement all over, myself and my Hyper. But I don't think I can ever ride it as supermoto, backing/sliding rear into corner, that would surely solve it, as you don't need to lean much then !

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JBoone

· #20 · 8 d ago

Just got back from track last weekend on SP.
admittedly I need a good bit of work on body position but ground right peg down a bit an ground brake and shifter. Also scuffed leather on both boots behind toe sliders as well sad sliders themselves. Any word from woodcraft regarding fit for 950?

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