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Hi, I want to share with you this project, hoping in your help and support. The bike is a monster 796 '10, equipped with the classical aptc wet clutch, as you know it's not simple to state that's an upgrade or a downgrade, but there are many "romantic" reasons for the making of this mod.
Now, you now the dry kit conversion are not the cheapest spare parts, and on a bike that is worth 5000 euros, a 1500 euros mod sounds maybe stupid. So before I started I gather the more informations as possibile, and I find out that the mod could be done with 500 euros more or less, using used and new parts. As you know, there are two ways:
1) Split the engines cases change the primary gear shaft and then you will be able to use every spare parts of Ducati bikes with dry clutches.
2) Working on the OEM primary shaft with dedicated spacers and seals for the closing of oil passages.
I'm going with the second way, because in my opinion is the less invasive method, and I will be able to restore the bike as it was whenever I want.
Now, I studied the conversion kits from Kbike, Bursi and Ducati Performance the main manufactures here in Italy.
The ensemble includes:
- A clutch cover side
- Primary Gears, Bursi and DP kit use the Hypermotard 1100 ones, Kbike produces the gear on which you mount the clutch housing, so you don't have change the other gear on the crankshaft, that requires special tools and it's very hard in the removal manouver. Actually you can use also other primary gears from every Ducati bikes with dry clutches except for the testastretta and the R models.
-The whole clutch
-A special screw sprocket side for closing the oil passages, DP uses a tapered screw, while Bursi and Kbike an harder spring on the OEM screw sprocket side.
-A longer push rod
-A special nut with seals, that one works also for housing for the bearing of the new push rod.
Kits also includes other little parts and screw but nothing impossible to find.
Now I need some advice from Ducati wizards in this forum and from DP dry conversion kit owners.:x
I find out that spare parts of the DP kit are sold individually at the Ducati Store, my idea is to buy the special nut, the spacial spacer with seals that fits in front of the clutch basket and the special M6 screw that close the oil passage sprocket side.
Then I want to adapt a standard slipper clutch, I know the ducati kit has a special hub, made because of the presence of the special nut, so if you can help me I'd like to understand the difference between the hub of the 848's kit and a common hub for a Ducati Performance slipper clutch.
This is the main point, everything could help me, detailed photo of DP kit, a description or some ideas.:grin2:
The project has just started, I found a cover clutch side from an Hypermotard 1100, and the primary gears for the amount of 140 euros. In the next two weeks I'm going to work on the cover to make it similar to the ducati performance magnesium one, about that anyone know the code reference of the similar magnesium cover?! :grin2:
Then I will buy the spare parts of the DP kit, and a used slipper clutch.
Stay tuned
If someone want to help me I'm all ears. Thank you in advance.
Now, you now the dry kit conversion are not the cheapest spare parts, and on a bike that is worth 5000 euros, a 1500 euros mod sounds maybe stupid. So before I started I gather the more informations as possibile, and I find out that the mod could be done with 500 euros more or less, using used and new parts. As you know, there are two ways:
1) Split the engines cases change the primary gear shaft and then you will be able to use every spare parts of Ducati bikes with dry clutches.
2) Working on the OEM primary shaft with dedicated spacers and seals for the closing of oil passages.
I'm going with the second way, because in my opinion is the less invasive method, and I will be able to restore the bike as it was whenever I want.
Now, I studied the conversion kits from Kbike, Bursi and Ducati Performance the main manufactures here in Italy.
The ensemble includes:
- A clutch cover side
- Primary Gears, Bursi and DP kit use the Hypermotard 1100 ones, Kbike produces the gear on which you mount the clutch housing, so you don't have change the other gear on the crankshaft, that requires special tools and it's very hard in the removal manouver. Actually you can use also other primary gears from every Ducati bikes with dry clutches except for the testastretta and the R models.
-The whole clutch
-A special screw sprocket side for closing the oil passages, DP uses a tapered screw, while Bursi and Kbike an harder spring on the OEM screw sprocket side.
-A longer push rod
-A special nut with seals, that one works also for housing for the bearing of the new push rod.
Kits also includes other little parts and screw but nothing impossible to find.
Now I need some advice from Ducati wizards in this forum and from DP dry conversion kit owners.:x
I find out that spare parts of the DP kit are sold individually at the Ducati Store, my idea is to buy the special nut, the spacial spacer with seals that fits in front of the clutch basket and the special M6 screw that close the oil passage sprocket side.
Then I want to adapt a standard slipper clutch, I know the ducati kit has a special hub, made because of the presence of the special nut, so if you can help me I'd like to understand the difference between the hub of the 848's kit and a common hub for a Ducati Performance slipper clutch.
This is the main point, everything could help me, detailed photo of DP kit, a description or some ideas.:grin2:
The project has just started, I found a cover clutch side from an Hypermotard 1100, and the primary gears for the amount of 140 euros. In the next two weeks I'm going to work on the cover to make it similar to the ducati performance magnesium one, about that anyone know the code reference of the similar magnesium cover?! :grin2:
Then I will buy the spare parts of the DP kit, and a used slipper clutch.
Stay tuned
If someone want to help me I'm all ears. Thank you in advance.
