i had a real real frustrating experience with an anomyous site sponsor & magicals racing carbon fiber undertail. i guess now no biggie, it happens, @ the time i was not happy but i just turned the page & made my own & saved the 300$, blah blah blah. the turn indicators are very very bright, small & hard 2 see when not in use. the plate is not 2 visible from the side you neeed 2 be directly behind, but this is my 1st bike to ever have a plate on it. since 90 i have always been a bike owner & now have several street bikes. i got 2 bikes with custom plates that stay in the trunk never have they been mounted, & i was smart enough 2 pay extra 4 them.