yeah, why would you want smoother, more reliable performance that doesnt cough at high elevation anyway?And of course the carb'd bike are better.
I think you meant temp gauge rather than ammeter?..What I do recall about my SS/SP's is that they had lighter swingarms, wider rear wheel, full fairing, an ammeter, and were generally considered to be preferrable to the CR.
Sigh. Here we are mid 2009 and this myth keeps on giving the gift! The STEEL swingarm on the 900sscr is much lighter than the heavy aluminum swingarm. Not that it really makes a hill of beans difference on these machines. My 1994sscr just clocked over 53,648 miles after todays spirited run through the plains of Colorado. That is 53,648 miles of trouble free, carbed miles of utter joy! Good times.What I do recall about my SS/SP's is that they had lighter swingarms
you dont really believe carbs are actually superior to f.i., do you?There are two reasons virtually all new cars have FI, (1) it's cheaper, (now) and (2) emissions.
FI does not automatically create a better stoichiometric mixture that carbs, especially at WOT. The FI supersports have more top end hp. more due to cams and intake design than having FI vs. carbs. At WOT it is perfectly possible to jet carbs to mix as well. In between idle and WOT it is easier to optimize the mixture with FI without the range steps inherent with carbs also, leading to (2) above.
It's very difficult to have discussions when people's minds are made up ahead of time....you dont really believe carbs are actually superior to f.i., do you?
yes, they are charismatic, retro, easy to adjust for mods, and can be very satisfying to tune properly, but the metering precision of fi just cannot be matched.
the only reason the carb MAY be more expensive(and this is VERY arguable...) it that for a carb to meet modern requirements, it would need some major technologies to overcome its inherent shortcomings(but no one is trying).
emissions made the carb obsolete, but that does not imply the carb is superior if emissions was not a consideration.
you are correct with your statement, as most ofMy original statement was that it isn't the FI that makes the '99+ supersports have higher hp, it's the inlet tract and cams, among other things, and I would stand by this statement still.
one last hijack post here to clarify a few things...you are correct with your statement, as most of
the times i like to point out, and there is no need
here to compare apples with bananas, carbs
with drum brakes in example.
put 41mm Keihin carbs on a tuned SS 1000 DS engine,
and it will have more hp than with the standard FI set-up,
as the atomization of the fuel causes the intake
charge to be cooled down which leeds to more hp.
Rossi has carbs in his Yamaha, but don't tell anyone.