I like chicken, this time of the year I'm a little tired of turkey.
LOL, good times, brake less! hehsafetyfish said:My chicken strips on the other hand is directly proportional to the loan amount still owed to the bank.
man my arms are hurting under the g-force loading - there goes my brake marker - squeeeeeeze front breaks more....more...more - shiiiiiiiiite it is getting soft - dont let go of the brakes - forget about back wheel sliding out at the moment - corner is coming up fast - trust the bike will take you through it, dip it in and go with the turn - power up, power up, knee is touching, power up, second gear... not too much on the power, catch the back wheel before it starts sliding out, more, more that is it.
My first approach on the first lap. Brakes are for wussies. Target fixated on the turn, went where I was looking and did not look at where I was supposed to be going. Mentally freaked out, mind told me this is going to hurt, my logic told me to just f**k it and go for it, ended up about three meters into the gravel trap with no damage to me or the bike.tye1138 said:LOL, good times, brake less! heh
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Yep, target fixation blows... Gotta look through the corner, especially when going fast and forget about everything. At the track I love the most, people pass on EVERY corner if they can, so not only do you have to do the corner fast, so you DON'T get passed, but you've gotta worry about the exit lines and not running into the other motorcyclists or visa versa!safetyfish said:My first approach on the first lap. Brakes are for wussies. Target fixated on the turn, went where I was looking and did not look at where I was supposed to be going. Mentally freaked out, mind told me this is going to hurt, my logic told me to just f**k it and go for it, ended up about three meters into the gravel trap with no damage to me or the bike.
Ask and you shall recieve:I'd find it interested to hear the physics of that explained.
Thank you for the references cited.Ask and you shall recieve:
You are interested in section 4.1.2
This is taken from a book called motorcycle dynamics from Vittore Cossalter which is a really detailed book but does require an understanding of physics, math and vectors to understand.
Sounds about right... but also, you're providing an acceleration toward the center of your turn radius, which equates to a force. Your tires get more grip due to the normal force that is generated to counter-act the inner acceleration/force.LOL! I mean, thats straight up the truth! Glad to see somebody who knows somethin!
Yep! Try it sometime on a corner you know well. Go slow, get comfortable and then increase speed. The centrifugal force will keep your tires planted and the faster you go through a corner, the more they'll grip because they're getting hotter = better grip! Of course, this is why softer compound racing tires exist and why a lot of people can leave black lines through a corner! Someday I'll do that, not today....
Not true, I've ridden the bike - you can steer it, albeit slowly, just by moving your body around (working the throttle helps too, you roll off as you turn and roll on as you stand up). In order to shift your body to the right, you have to push off the left peg - that little input is the same as countersteering, and initiates a turn to the right. It has nothing to do with the bars.according to Keith it was IMPOSABLE to do more than make the bike wiggle and wobble when holding the frame mounted bars.
Going faster through a turn, you do put more force on the tire directed into the ground - but that's just because you need exactly that much more force, because you're also putting more force on the tire directed to the outside of the turn. If you keep leaning over more and more, you don't get more grip (in the sense of having a surplus of traction) - if this were true, no one would ever lowside.Sounds about right... but also, you're providing an acceleration toward the center of your turn radius, which equates to a force. Your tires get more grip due to the normal force that is generated to counter-act the inner acceleration/force.