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"Cheap" helmets vs mid/top of the range helmets

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I am in the market for a new helmet. I currently have a AGV K1. Its been a good helmet and I thought about just getting another K1 or K3. Ive owned the latter as well.

But, I made the mistake of trying on a Shoei X-14 which was far more comfortable and it felt like it was specially made for my head. I also tried on a Scorpion Exo-R1 but it didn't feel nearly as good imo.

Perhaps it isn't fair to compare the AGV K1/K3 line to the X-14 because the retail of the latter is more expensive by at least $500. Now that the X-15 is out, however, the X-14 is on sale for around the $600 mark in some places and i am tempted. I absolutely love the Marquez graphic one but I'm not sure i could wear a Marquez helmet. lol

This has led me to wonder just what is the difference in a good lower end helmet and a mid tier or upper tier helmet? If I did more track days as I would like, I would feel much safer in something like the Shoei. But is this just about comfort, fit, and marketing, and not so much about protection?

Ive been riding for only about 5 years now, so i know some of you guys have far more experience and wisdom.
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Well that was very helpful killjoy. Thank you.
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Depends on what your head is worth ---I wear Only Arai helmets, Just purchased a Corsair X to replace my RX7RR . --I have been in 4 crashes-( all 4 caused by an idiot in a car) --in all 4 had I not been wearing a helmet or had I been wearing a cheap one I would be dead, --I wear the best helmet money can purchase--I dont care about the price--I value my head & what is inside it far more the money.
Purchase the best helmet you can afford.
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3 criteria, 1- Spec, 2-weight, 3-fit. And then I look at what helmet I can actually afford!
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Odds are you are not going to get knocked out, but maybe lose that 'how did it happen' wiped from the memory, if not the action was too fast to process. Maybe closed eyes could contribute to the crash and lose that input.

I buy the discontinued models on sale. So if a Bell is a 100 dollars, I buy 2. It's still DOT to be sold in the US like brake parts have to meet DOT, etc.

Insides will be crushed [implode] and loosen up. So average life is around 2 to 4 years is more my cutoff time. Sitting on a spare Bell as I buy a round of 2.

Material to make a helmet is not some 700 dollar price tag, but the liability insurance of being in that kind of business.
Doubt you'll average 3.87 times thru your riding years, if I plot in my years of riding [62], and point to the average when I first started riding.

I'm still here wearing the cheap seats.
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Longtime Arai and Schuberth guy here. However, the MIPS dirt helmet tech is crossing over to the street and is designed to reduce brain decelleration [injury] for combined compression and rotational impacts that developers say are common sources of injury to riders. I enjoy my Bell ADV MIPS for offroad.

The EC helmet standards allow for less stiff foam liners than SNELL, for variable decelleration responses. Possibly advantageous in lower speed crashes. Aarais are SNELL, but arent EC-certified last I looked. I've no expertise in this, so:

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Today, if you’re buying a helmet, unless you’re buying a Chinesium knock-off it’s difficult to find a really poor helmet.

When I state that, what I mean is one that will fail to protect your head in a crash. There was time when there were plenty of helmets on the market were suspect. That has greatly diminished in the last 15-20 years.

A premium helmet like an Arai or Shoei are much more comfortable and include better venting and better or at least more expensive visor/shields. They are premium brands and command a premium price for a reason.

Some disagree but the next line is still top tier but slightly lower on the scale than what I’d call “premium” but still a rather large step from “mid tier”. In this line I’d include X-Lite/Nolan, Shark, AGV, and Schuberth.

They’re still very high quality, very well made and every bit as protective as an Arai or Shoei. They’re just that tick below premium to me.

Mid tier there are so many these days…and some companies like AGV build mid tier helmets to fill the gap between their high end helmets and their low end helmets. Note that you won’t find a low end helmet built by Arai or Shoei.

There are some lower end helmets that are worthy of a look as well, though you do sacrifice some fit & finish quality with them. However, If you see the brands being worn in MotoGP or WSBK, I don’t feel like it’s a huge risk trying one.

All that said, I currently have 4 helmets in my rotation (I ride every work day) 2 X-Lites and 2 KYTs. I find the X-Lites fit and finish far away above that of thr KYTs but there’s nothing wrong with the KYTs either. Well, maybe the shield change mechanism but that’s nothing to do with how it feels on my head or how well the interior is put together.

So buy what fits your dome the best. Doesn’t mattter so much who makes it….so long as you have a frame of reference for the manufacturers claims of meeting or exceeding a given standard (DOT, EU or Snell)
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In researching what helmet I wanted the biggest factors I looked at were it had to be ECE 22.05 (now 22.06), weight, and functional features. When I started riding again I bought a Sedici strada carbon. It was a good helmet for the money but the vents didnt vent much and it was horrific in the rain. Of how well it fits you is key.

If you like the AGV and have been happy with it look at Revzilla and Cycle Gear, you can get the K5 or K6 on clearance for $300-400. I bought my K5 Dark for like 340 a while back. Or wait a little longer and keep looking for deals on the X-14. As they filter down to the bargain market the price will continue to go down. Especially if you are flexible on what design you are willing to get.

As far as the difference between cheap and expensive, my Sedici was a good helmet for the money. But as mentioned not the best in every situation. One of those was after wearing it all day on a long ride especially with the interstate involved. The noise and sometimes buffeted with the lack of efficient venting was exhausting. And its not something you will experience until you experience a really well designed lid.
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I'd put Shuberth in the top tier. Fit and finish, details, and how effin quiet it is, were all plusses for the Schuberth C3 and C3 Pro we have been using for 10 years. It's an articulating helmet, so its not for track or aggressive canyon work.
Thanks guys. This is exactly the kind of info I was looking for. Based upon everything being said, I am leaning toward the K1 or even better, the K5/6. But, I am still open minded.
i moved to Shoei for the fit and went from the GT air to the GT air 2. I have had other helmets (including the Klim Krios, which was great but felt large) but the fit of the Shoei was the best for my head and face.

Good luck with your choice!
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Depends on what your head is worth ---I wear Only Arai helmets, Just purchased a Corsair X to replace my RX7RR . --I have been in 4 crashes-( all 4 caused by an idiot in a car) --in all 4 had I not been wearing a helmet or had I been wearing a cheap one I would be dead, --I wear the best helmet money can purchase--I dont care about the price--I value my head & what is inside it far more the money.
Purchase the best helmet you can afford.
Funny, I've been in 4 crashes too (all four caused by the idiot behind the handlebars). Ok, not really funny, but still true. In at least two of the instances, I'm fairly sure I wouldn't be here without the helmet I was wearing at the given time.

Today, if you’re buying a helmet, unless you’re buying a Chinesium knock-off it’s difficult to find a really poor helmet.
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So buy what fits your dome the best. Doesn’t mattter so much who makes it….so long as you have a frame of reference for the manufacturers claims of meeting or exceeding a given standard (DOT, EU or Snell)
I have never felt the need for an expensive helmet, even with racing and years of trackdays. Fit, venting, comfort, weight, noise (along with the necessary rating, integrity and protection) are easily found in the mid-range price-point.
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Last month just purchased my first HJC rpha 11 pro after years of shoie rf1000 to rf1100 to rf1200. The 11pro is very similiar to the rf1200 in profile and size. It is also very light but it is louder. In the box you get two visors and a pinlock and helmetbag.
i did not buy the rf1400 because the 11pro fit me better. i also managed to find a graphic i could tolerate. And yes huge savings but really it was the fit. The shoie RF1400 grew just a bit and little more round.
this site was helpful Compare the shape and size of motorcycle helmets by brand and model — The Lid Picker
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I was happy with the Bell RS-1 that is now backup, and the RS-2 I am using now. To my mind they are just as good as the couple of Arai helmets I had before, but far less expensive.

Next up I will probably get something like this since it looks like the RS is no more. DOT and ECE certified and has "mips", which sounds like a good thing. It is under $300.

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Qualifier DLX Mips
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I have a $300 Bell Qualifier DLX MIPS helmet, two seconds of wearing it shows the very high quality of all my Arai helmets, but for slower speeds around town I do wear the Bell despite the noise. It has the Isle of Man graphic which I am in love with and the special photochromic lens is kind of nice. However, the lens is useless at sunrise or sunset, won't darken at all. Optics on the Arai's are much better and I always wear glasses with most having top quality transition lenses anyway or they are RayBans.
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:LOL: great responses, covering most of the bases (y).

My 2c worth - just the other day I grabbed my older version RT33 Kabuto for a ride. Although it is ummmm, errrr, 5yo I think (I cycle 2 helmets) it fitted and felt heaps more comfortable than the newest RT33 I bought in 2021. Both are settled in nicely and neither is worn or loose.

Same brand, same model, shape etc, ...different feel......all things change over the years.

Buy the lightest best fit with the features you value.

The old chestnut '$10 helmet for a $10 head' sales pitch is just as much BS as it ever was.

(y)
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30 years ago Bell was the status quo then Simpson came along, Bell was sold & went off shore so it was never buy one of those, Shoei then became my go to helmet but for some strange reason every one of those seemed to be mammal magnets (5 dogs 1 deer) I bought a HJC 2 years ago as a backup that appears well built, quiet & fits well but for some reason I (in my mind) think they are cheep "wannabe" helmets from the sound of things that's incorrect.

I'm seriously thinking Bell again, Klim snowmobile gear is expensive as hell & basically junk so I'm betting there helmets are no better, Shoei helmets are noisy & over priced, Fly..meh, Simpson went In the tank after bill sold it & HJC is also in the running.

Another thing I'm going to stop doing is custom painting & gold leaf on motorcycle helmets due to using them for asphalt hardness & abrasion testing every 3 to 4 years.

I'm going to start on company trucks zip tie burlap potato sacks to RR rims so the next time some asshole on vacation from 'who gives a shitville' let's there dog run free chases one of my trucks & latches on a burlap bag it breaks there neck that way all you guys riding through going to Yellowstone, Montana & Sturgis this summer will be safe from those worthless noisy hairy damage causing shit spreaders.

You are correct assuming i hate dogs.......for more reasons than hitting (killing) them on motorcycles
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I was happy with the Bell RS-1
So was I…..until I tried on an X-Lite. My RS-1 just felt enormously heavy after that. I really liked it too. With the transitions shield I never needed to carry a second shield. Also liked the magnetic securing strap as it was my commute helmet and made life a tad easier.

I have some damaged vertebrae in my neck so helmet weight is a big factor for me. My pain threshold is pretty high but a heavier helmet increases my discomfort level. Once that happens fatigue sets in sooner and sooner each time. IOW, a multi day trip becomes more difficult to with each hour on the road.
Thanks guys. This is exactly the kind of info I was looking for. Based upon everything being said, I am leaning toward the K1 or even better, the K5/6. But, I am still open minded.
Based on personal experience, i strongly advice avoiding the K6 if you’ll be riding in the forward canted sportbike riding position. I rode in one for all of about 200 km last year before selling it. I’ve never worn a helmet with as much lift and buffeting at highway speeds. It was basically dangerous the lift was so bad. I’m not exaggerating. I do like AGV helmets, I own a Corsa which is fantastic to ride in
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