Ducati.ms - The Ultimate Ducati Forum banner
  • Hey Everyone! Enter your bike HERE to be a part of this months Bike of the Month Challenge!
1 - 15 of 15 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
3 Posts
Discussion Starter · #1 ·
After winter hybernation (live in Sweden) and three weeks of work from home (because of Corona/Covid-19) I weigh in at +110kg/242 lbs and the rear static sag (sag with me and my gear sitting on the bike) is 76mm/3 inches with maximum preload and I need a stiffer spring or loose a lot of weight...
Does anyone know if the rear spring on a 2019 MTS 950s (or 1200/1260s) can be changed without interfering with the Skyhook system or am I stuck with what I have?
If it cannot be changed my only options will be to change to a base model without the Skyhook system or live with the extremely soft (and annoying) rear suspension.
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
353 Posts
This post talks about changing front springs, but then also links to some information on changing the rear spring. Let me know if you get it done, I weigh more than you so I am also curious.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2 Posts
After winter hybernation (live in Sweden) and three weeks of work from home (because of Corona/Covid-19) I weigh in at +110kg/242 lbs and the rear static sag (sag with me and my gear sitting on the bike) is 76mm/3 inches with maximum preload and I need a stiffer spring or loose a lot of weight...
Does anyone know if the rear spring on a 2019 MTS 950s (or 1200/1260s) can be changed without interfering with the Skyhook system or am I stuck with what I have?
If it cannot be changed my only options will be to change to a base model without the Skyhook system or live with the extremely soft (and annoying) rear suspension.
Yes. Can certainly change the rear spring without upsetting the Skyhook system. I changed the rear spring on my 1200 enduro to a Eibach 0800 225 0700 spring. Has about 15% higher rate than standard. Also used a spacer to drop travel height by 15mm to 185mm max which dropped seat height a little. Static sag now 45mm with 80kg rider and 80kg pillion. Also replaced shock oil front and rear by one grade heavier with 15mm higher level in the front. Much improved performance both one up, 2 up and loaded (tourertech 45L panniers and 38L topcase) at about 475kg all up. Used to set at maximum preload and hardest shock settings, now set mid range loaded 2 up but no more wallowing and rare bottoming. Set at minimum preload and softer shock and fork settings if riding solo and no additional load. Suggest, if you tour 2up you could go to say 20 - 25% stiffer spring on the rear depending on your pillion weight. Recommended as a real worthwhile improvement - the bike now behaves as it should have standard.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
3 Posts
Discussion Starter · #4 ·
Thanks AussieBF! Mostly I ride solo so base settings should be with me alone.
If the Skyhook system still works with a changed spring it should increase preload etc when the DSS setting ’load mode’ is set to rider + pillion etc.



Skickat från min iPhone med Tapatalk Pro
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2 Posts
Thanks AussieBF! Mostly I ride solo so base settings should be with me alone.
If the Skyhook system still works with a changed spring it should increase preload etc when the DSS setting ’load mode’ is set to rider + pillion etc.



Skickat från min iPhone med Tapatalk Pro
Yes it will. Cost was about $800A was arround 18 months ago - done by a local specialist. Should be similar in your country - challenge is finding out who can do it properly. Suggest a company that just does bike suspension setups - competition (dirt and track) and road. When you get it done let us know how it works by post here. Hope it goes well.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
3 Posts
After winter hybernation (live in Sweden) and three weeks of work from home (because of Corona/Covid-19) I weigh in at +110kg/242 lbs and the rear static sag (sag with me and my gear sitting on the bike) is 76mm/3 inches with maximum preload and I need a stiffer spring or loose a lot of weight...
Does anyone know if the rear spring on a 2019 MTS 950s (or 1200/1260s) can be changed without interfering with the Skyhook system or am I stuck with what I have?
If it cannot be changed my only options will be to change to a base model without the Skyhook system or live with the extremely soft (and annoying) rear suspension.
MTHESWEDE, did you ever get this upgrade? A mate and me have the same issue.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
3 Posts
Discussion Starter · #7 ·
I have found a suspension specialist that will do it after the summer holidays. They have done it for two other MTS before me. Will replace the OE progressive spring with a linear spring appropriate for my weight.
According to them the factory suspension is set up for an approx 75-80 kg (165-175 lbs) rider.
I’ll post here as soon as I get it done.


Skickat från min iPhone med Tapatalk Pro
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
3 Posts
I have found a suspension specialist that will do it after the summer holidays. They have done it for two other MTS before me. Will replace the OE progressive spring with a linear spring appropriate for my weight.
According to them the factory suspension is set up for an approx 75-80 kg (165-175 lbs) rider.
I’ll post here as soon as I get it done.


Skickat från min iPhone med Tapatalk Pro
My mate and I are both around the 105-110kg and we are both on 22 rear pre-load rider only. I have the 2019 MTS 950s and he has a 2020 MTS1260s GT. I would like to upgrade springs that will bring the pre-load down to between 6-9 in solo riding so we can dial in 2-up or pannier usage for long alpine trips.

How have the suspension specialists ascertained which spring rating you need for your bike?

Can you share their contact information as there is nothing here in Denmark.
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
4,346 Posts
I have found a suspension specialist that will do it after the summer holidays. They have done it for two other MTS before me. Will replace the OE progressive spring with a linear spring appropriate for my weight.
According to them the factory suspension is set up for an approx 75-80 kg (165-175 lbs) rider.
I’ll post here as soon as I get it done.


Skickat från min iPhone med Tapatalk Pro
This is why I've not changed mine... I don't want to give up the touring comfort of the bike by going to a linear rate spring, and progressive options seem to be very limited. I found a place in Britain who said they could do it but I need to pull the spring to give them the specs of the stock unit so it'll have to wait until winter.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
3 Posts
This is why I've not changed mine... I don't want to give up the touring comfort of the bike by going to a linear rate spring, and progressive options seem to be very limited. I found a place in Britain who said they could do it but I need to pull the spring to give them the specs of the stock unit so it'll have to wait until winter.
Where in Britain was that DaveK? How do we know it's a progressive spring and where can I get specifications for the stock spring?
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
4,346 Posts
twsuspensiontech, I saw a post where someone had a good experience so reached out to them... but they need physical measurements of the spring and I'm not eager to disassemble the bike then have to reassemble to ride while the replacement is being made... only to do it again when the new part arrives. So it's a winter activity for me but I'd be interested in feedback from anyone else who's willing to give them a try.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2 Posts
Hi folks, in general the specification of the rear spring is printed on it. E.G. .(..../85) means 100N/mm. That is what I build into my Multistrada S while my weight incl. gear is about 100kg. Works fine with that spring rate. Do not forget to change front springs also.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
7 Posts
Any updates from those who have changed springs front or rear in a 1260s? I’m having a hard time finding someone local to me willing to touch the skyhook. Also I need measurements to source my own springs. Thanks! USA here
 
1 - 15 of 15 Posts
Top