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If your a mechanic or an armchair mechanic, I'd like to hear your thoughts on a complete power failure of the 2016 Multi 1200S. In summary, at any speed, or gear, or anything remotely consistent, the bike will just turn off completely. It might start again right away or maybe not. I've had some luck restarting by battery dis/reconnect. It's fairly consistent now in failing every time. Desmo and Munroe Motors of SFO have been unable to repair and suggested I sell it at auction. This seems entirely unfair to me and the bike. This bike is unrepairable?
 

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Have you considered taking it to am electrical specialist or another dealer ie...Ducati in Livermore?

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What have they looked at already and told you it isn't? If it's pretty consistent, were they able to reproduce the problem themselves? Or are they just taking stabs in the dark?
 

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If your a mechanic or an armchair mechanic, I'd like to hear your thoughts on a complete power failure of the 2016 Multi 1200S. In summary, at any speed, or gear, or anything remotely consistent, the bike will just turn off completely. It might start again right away or maybe not. I've had some luck restarting by battery dis/reconnect. It's fairly consistent now in failing every time. Desmo and Munroe Motors of SFO have been unable to repair and suggested I sell it at auction. This seems entirely unfair to me and the bike. This bike is unrepairable?

Take a look at this article regarding faulty wiring harnesses and other electrical issues. Hope it helps

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My god, with all the 7 + problems that is stated in the article, who would purchase a Ducati? I have a 2010, 38,000 miles and absolutely no electrical gremlins or any other problems I can think of. When i bought my Ducati in 2010 it would occasionally just quit on decelerating. it would start with no problem. the computer was flashed for this problem but it still happened on occasion. Because the motors are leaned out for emission reasons, i felt that was why the bike would quit. I then installed a full Termi system and chip and that took care of the problem. the bike runs much better at low RPM range and increased the power band all through the range. Mileage was not effected. I know, it's an expensive fix, but what is money for? I would first look at the most common areas. Ground cable, tight fuses, maybe faulty fuses, clean and tight battery connections. If that doesn't fix the problem, find a dealer that has a decent service department.
 

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My god, with all the 7 + problems that is stated in the article, who would purchase a Ducati?
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Everything in that article is nonsense and bullshit. You just have to look at the image of the tools to rate the reliability of the article. The VAST majority of bikes do not have these problems.
For the original poster, I don't know who "Desmo and Munroe " are but suggesting you sell it at auction is not a diagnosis. You need to take it to a reliable Ducati dealer and get it looked at by an experienced Ducati mechanic with the proper tools. The hands-free unit is one of the places this mechanic should be checking
 

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When it dies, does the engine die and all gauges and electrical still functions? Does the engine stumble and then die. Or is it like flipping a switch off? Does the dash go out? If so what makes it come on again....can be a simple as crappy connection or switch...but you need to give us a little more if you want help. Just unloading it is BS. I don’t think much of your mechanic.
 
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Everything in that article is nonsense and bullshit. You just have to look at the image of the tools to rate the reliability of the article. The VAST majority of bikes do not have these problems.
For the original poster, I don't know who "Desmo and Munroe " are but suggesting you sell it at auction is not a diagnosis. You need to take it to a reliable Ducati dealer and get it looked at by an experienced Ducati mechanic with the proper tools. The hands-free unit is one of the places this mechanic should be checking
^- this... I wonder if the writer actually has ANY experience with Duc's or is just jumbling together all the various years and models from forum posts... electrical issues do happen but are not THAT common on newer Duc's. Clutch wear? Dry clutch yes (all dry clutches have a limited lifespan, wet's usually outlast the bike). Transmission issues? I've never seen a post on the transmission that wasn't complaining about false neutrals.

When I had the bike shut down on the highway it was from a loose battery connection (my fault)... but there are a LOT of electrical issues that could result in the symptoms you describe. Electrical problems are annoying but a trained tech will be able to sort it out - I've never heard of a 4 year old bike being a "lost cause" because of an electrical issue. Where do you live... you may be able to get a recommended shop from the guys here.
 
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How often does this happen ? If it’s every time you ride it shouldn’t be that hard to diagnose. Does it cool down and always start ? If disconnecting the battery works every time, does that mean you are rebooting the ECU and erasing codes ?
I have told this story a hundred times : My S4RS was totally dead with a good battery.
I found that the factory had placed the zip ties holding the wiring to the frame too close to wiring connectors, pulling the wiring very slightly out of the connector. I cut every zip tie, and pushed every connector back together from both sides. Sometimes I felt them click in.
The bike then fired up. I thought I had an ECU problem, or an immobilizer problem.Worth trying, costs a bag of zip ties.
 

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Look under the rider seat, exhaust side you will have the starter relay (selenoid) there with a white plug on the top with 4 wires.

Disconnect this and look if it's melted or corroded. There's a recall for this, search the forum you should find it.
 

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I appreciate your insight gentlemen. If I can answer a few questions... When I say the bike shuts off...I mean immediately and totally off. Everything. Restarting could be as quick as selecting the power on switch (either one). Then other times you have to wait a quite awhile and sometimes you have to disconnect the battery. And that does not always work either. The starter relay was looked at closely. It appears new. The dealers are in San Francisco and the codes this thing throws did not lead to a resolution. (obscure codes seemingly unrelated, wheel speed sensors, traction control, can bus, etc.) I don't know all the codes. Ground cables, fuses and battery were all looked at. Finally, it is happening ever time I ride the bike now and it doesn't take long. A few miles. It doesn't seem to need to cool down necessarily to restart but a cold bike usually starts. Regarding immobilizer, I would agree it seems suspect but the dealers did not think so. I don't know why.
I would happily take it to the best diagnostician you guys know if it was reasonably close. I can call Livermore.
 

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There is a thread somewhere on the English site with the same issue. Take a search over there as it may help.
 

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The fact that the bike is shutting down completely, vs. just the engine dying, should make diagnosing the cause much easier. You have an electrical problem. No idea what's causing it, but I can give you a piece of good news: you have a reliably repeatable electrical problem. On a scale between easy-fix and throw-this-thing-in-the-dumpster, any repeatable problem is closer to an easy-fix.
 

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So it's a fair assumption that Desmo & Munroe motors are scumbags, not only are they too stupid/lazy to even attempt to diagnose your issue they suggest you auction it off to make it someone else's problem. Arseholes!

As others have said, if it's repeatable and it shuts everything off it's
A. Diagnosable
B. Electrical
C. likely to be either an Earth issue or an ECU issue, at least that's my guess without actually seeing it.....
 

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Just a thought, is it keyless ignition ?
Cos I’ve heard of one round my way that mid ride would shut down like yours. Apparently it was to do with keyless ignition losing signal
 

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IF... The shut off switch had a short, wouldn't have that exact symptom?
Just a thought!
 
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