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Im in the market for an 1199, either an S or R. Ive found a bunch in the 11-13k price range, but one stands out as a prime candidate.. Its a '15 1199R with 3300 miles, used for the last 1k miles on the track. It has all the OEM street equipment that comes with it as well. Price is great, I'm just a little weary of buying a bike that has been tracked. pictures look great and he "claims" its never been down and always serviced at the dealer.

Im going to use the bike as a daily rider, don't need the R but I've always wanted one!

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I wouldn't be afraid of 1K of track miles on an 1199. Frankly probably was good for the bike as many of these simply don't get ridden hard enough to break in fully. Given the performance level it is tough to do this on the street. The oversquare bore and low tension ring setup means you really need to load the motor to break it in. If Chad at Commonwealth has tuned the bike, it should be a strong example. If not you should see if the seller will agree to make the sale contingent on how the bike does on the dyno. You should see around 190 rwhp.
 

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Personally I think buying an R bike for riding on the street is a mistake, The R's have a lot of racing components that make the bike work well on the track but hurt street use as far as comfort and maintenance. By that I mean suspension sprung and dialed in to work well at 130+ MPH and parts that are ridiculously expensive to replace and more labor intensive at service intervals.Racing bikes are made to be serviced, checked and maybe even rebuilt after every weekend race, they are not designed for thousands of trouble-free, maintenance free miles.


A lot of guys buy the R because it has a certain panache but the reality is that its not a good everyday bike. Actually I dont think any panigale makes a very good daily rider, but a pani R? I wouldnt.
 

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Personally I think buying an R bike for riding on the street is a mistake, The R's have a lot of racing components that make the bike work well on the track but hurt street use as far as comfort and maintenance. By that I mean suspension sprung and dialed in to work well at 130+ MPH and parts that are ridiculously expensive to replace and more labor intensive at service intervals.Racing bikes are made to be serviced, checked and maybe even rebuilt after every weekend race, they are not designed for thousands of trouble-free, maintenance free miles.


A lot of guys buy the R because it has a certain panache but the reality is that its not a good everyday bike. Actually I dont think any panigale makes a very good daily rider, but a pani R? I wouldnt.
I didn't think there was that much of a difference between the R & S in the 12-13-14 Panigale? The R came with a full termi system, Titanium rods, DDA and the racing seat and fairings that say "R". Hell, they don't even get blessed with carbon fairings anymore.

Am I missing something, is there something else to the R that makes it that bad on the street? I daily rode a 999s and before that a 916, so poor slow speed handling and terrible low rpm fuel mapping are things I'm use to.
 

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I didn't think there was that much of a difference between the R & S in the 12-13-14 Panigale? The R came with a full termi system, Titanium rods, DDA and the racing seat and fairings that say "R". Hell, they don't even get blessed with carbon fairings anymore.

Am I missing something, is there something else to the R that makes it that bad on the street? I daily rode a 999s and before that a 916, so poor slow speed handling and terrible low rpm fuel mapping are things I'm use to.
The most notable thing is the stiffer suspension with different valving that makes riding at normal street speeds a jarring experience. I dont know the details of the pani but I owned a 1098R and besides all of the exotic internals it had a different valve adjustment method that required special tools, and a different clutch that could be finicky on the road. I rode my 1098R on the street a couple of times (once up pikes peak) and the experience was the best and the worst of riding a sport bike: Rock solid in the corners and at speed with an engine that was so good you could almost weep over the wonder of it - and still, a ride that if not careful could jar you so hard you could loose teeth or suffer a spinal injury and a riding position that made you contort in very unnatural ways just to see traffic around you.

I bought a Panigale tricolre and I called the dealer immediately upon arriving home from picking it up new and had them come get it. From that day on I've not been too interested in the development of the Pani through the years. So I cant say that I know the details of the R - But before you buy one you should research the differences - you might be surprised. ( most people - even ducati people dont know all the details of the R bikes, they are generally pretty special)

I know that the 999 is worlds more comfortable to ride than the 916 - IMO you'll be taking a step backwards in comfort with a Panigale.
 
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