Chuckracer said:The Buell is not legal, but that won't stop them. Hey, this is the AMA, and the AMA will ignore whatever rules it has to so Harley can play. You betcha.
4 Buell's are entering the Daytona FX race. Looks like they're putting a much different spin on it, from Roadracing World website:MikeM said:I'll take that bet. You won't see Harley manipulating rules any more. Not in that class. Not with so many 600 sales at stake and certainly not with such a big CC disparity...
Maybe if F/X was still a "mixed-bikes/ cheap-entry class" like it was originally intended things might be different but now that it's the big event the Japanese manufacturers call the shots. So...
IF the AMA even lets Buell in - doubtful because there is no street version of the RR and rules mandate such... and IF Buell actually enters - even more doubtful as there really are no competitive riders even if Buell wanted to race and recall last year when Buell said they'd be there but never showed...
vduc said:4 Buell's are entering the Daytona FX race. Looks like they're putting a much different spin on it, from Roadracing World website:
"The 2007 Buell Firebolt XB-RR is a production racebike (essentially a streetbike fitted with a race kit at the factory and sold for competition use only, much like Ducati’s 999RS and 749RS models) designed to have competitive horsepower, to weigh near the AMA Formula Xtreme minimum weight limit, to be durable enough to last an entire race season with only routine maintenance and to be versatile enough to be raced in several professional, pro-am and amateur organizations and classes."
Double or nothing on whether any of 'em finish?Chuckracer said:AMA soup:
"AMA Pro Racing sources said this week that based on the fact that the rules for an air-cooled Twin in Formula Extreme are so wide, and allow for so many modifications, that it is their belief that the XBRR is legal for the Formula Extreme class."
Harley wouldn't have built the bikes and sold them for 30k a pop if they weren't going to be able to run them. They got the go-ahead from the AMA long before this announcment was made. Does that make them legal? Nope, but this is the AMA...where it's common to make up rules on the fly.
Bet on, Mike.
Not that I'M going to rush out and buy a Buell but I'm sort of fan. I would have thought Honda would have wielded their big stick to keep the Buell Firebolt XB-RR out, maybe Harley has a bigger oneMikeM said:Double or nothing on whether any of 'em finish?
5. The following items may not be altered from the originally approved model on all engine types except as noted:
a. Stock main frame
1. Frame must display vehicle identification number.
2. Strengthening gussets and tubes may be added, but none may be removed.
3. Accessory brackets (radiator, shock reservoir, stands, etc.) may be changed, relocated, added or removed. Holes may
be drilled only for the purpose of attaching brackets or other components.
b. Swing arms
1. Stock swing arms must be utilized. The only modifications permitted are gusseting and attachment of stand mounts, and to allow the fitment of non-stock brake components, spacers, axles, and wheels. Any such modifications may not alter the fore and aft axle adjustment dimensions or any other pivot or linkage locations from that of the stock swing arm. 1000cc-13500cc air-cooled twin-cylinder motorcycles are unrestricted.
2. Rear wheel sprocket and brake rotor must remain with the wheel assembly when removed from swing arm.
h. Approval of Formula Xtreme® Motorcycles
1. Only approved motorcycles may be used in Formula Xtreme competition.
2. Formula Xtreme competition is restricted to motorcycles (engines and frames) produced for US street use andavailable in the US through retail dealers.
Hmmm.. Mladin has Superbike racing pretty much locked up for a while and all of a sudden the 200 is an F/X event. Can you say "Honda Power" LOLharleyjohn45 said:i've seen lots of KR harleys go 200 miles and still run strong. that said all big twins including ducati have a rough time at daytona. the water cooled multi cylinder bikes are well suited for daytona. i had decided to skip the 200 this year, because last year it was more than i could handle watching three hondas finish 1,2,3 at the 200 by honda. you want to talk about harley having the AMA bought and paid for.