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the company that was the distributor between the belt manufacturer that makes the "exactfit" belts for california cycleworks and california cycleworks decided to screw california cycleworks and copied their branding, etc, with the "tru-fit" name and ordered their own belts while not ordering them for california cycleworks (who then didn't have belts for many months because of the screwing) and did a deal with parts unlimited and possibly bike bandit to sell them.
 

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Well. Ya know... belts are cheap enough, and purchased infrequently enough, that I would spend the extra money to support the shops that support the Ducati scene. Buy some other stuff from them while you’re there, too or there won’t be Ducati specialist shops to help out the DIY crowd.
 

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Well. Ya know... belts are cheap enough, and purchased infrequently enough, that I would spend the extra money to support the shops that support the Ducati scene. Buy some other stuff from them while you’re there, too or there won’t be Ducati specialist shops to help out the DIY crowd.
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Sounds as if CCW was buying belts from an intermediary supplier rather than directly from a belt manufacture. I worked in the automotive parts industry and we had a Special Order Dept. that handled purchase like that directly with the customer. We even designed the spring if the customer desired that service. I’m sure the belt manufacturers have the same thing. Putting that intermediary in the process only raised the price and interfered with communication between them and the manufacturer .
 

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1st preference is to buy items like belts from a local dealer where...I can examine the item for flex tolerance and factory freshness before taking possession. Downside? There is a cost for this privilege; $200 for 2 belts!

Next up is a site vendor where I will probably purchase a non OEM belt at half the price: likely made in the same Chinese factory as the higher priced Ducati replacement part. But there is the trust-issue over acceptable (to me) quality and what and how all that ensues, should that be the case.

Finally, there is that uber tempting bargain basement find that rings of "FREE LUNCH" mythology. I guess Im here to talk myself out of that one.

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I pissed off a bunch of loyal customers when I said it before... but buying low cost Chinese versions of things like belts (that will grenade your motor if the vendor decides to up their margins with a few cost cutting design choices)... not a good idea IMO. Maybe if it's a cosmetic item that doesn't affect the bike... but not for internal components.

I get that they were happy with the product and didn't have issues... but that means absolutely nothing. Has the vendor tested the belts and can they provide performance metrics, what's the safety margin, what are the extensive lifecycle test results, how about harsh environment testing, thermal, humidity,etc. How about age testing... 5 year lifespan under varying usage and environmental conditions.

Gates has their brand capital to protect so they have real incentives to not cut corners - is it reasonable to expect a Chinese sub-sub contractor to adhere to those same quality metrics? And if not... then what IS insuring you get a quality product?

Even if it's warrantied... small companies avoid warranty costs all the time by disappearing and popping back up with one letter changed in their name. With an item that has a multi-year life and HUGE cost exposure if it fails I bet the chance of getting a warranty (even if they offered one - which IIRC they don't) honored is very low.
 

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Maybe it's just me but, I'd rather spend the extra $80 for OEM belts on the few occasions I need to swap them out. Can't say I've ever seen much wear on the belts on any of my Ducs over the years. I'd actually feel more comfortable going over the service interval by 5,000 miles than using aftermarket belts
 

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Sounds as if CCW was buying belts from an intermediary supplier rather than directly from a belt manufacture. I worked in the automotive parts industry and we had a Special Order Dept. that handled purchase like that directly with the customer. We even designed the spring if the customer desired that service. I’m sure the belt manufacturers have the same thing. Putting that intermediary in the process only raised the price and interfered with communication between them and the manufacturer .
that was the supply chain structure the belt manufacturer insisted on, even though chris was dealing direct with them throughout the development phase. made no sense to me either (nor chris i don't think), but maybe he now deals direct after the screwing over? as you say, one extra price tier.
 

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I pissed off a bunch of loyal customers when I said it before... but buying low cost Chinese versions of things like belts (that will grenade your motor if the vendor decides to up their margins with a few cost cutting design choices)... not a good idea IMO. Maybe if it's a cosmetic item that doesn't affect the bike... but not for internal components.
Ive certainly never understood being on a budget on an italian bike. Ive only owned that country of origin product since I was a kid and lets be honest, its not like anything about these bikes are cheap.

But then you're going to save like $80 on something you do every two years? Something that not only could be costly just for an engine rebuild but what do you think happens if you are on the throttle,cranked over in the corner, and you lose all power or even worse get engine braking?
 

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Well, I'm in the total opposite camp.

I have champagne taste but a beer budget.

I use the cheapest aftermarket gear I can get.
Gates 5192XS belts off ebay. Usually around $25 each. These are the Renault belts of doom (supposedly)
I run them hard for 2 years, then change.

Until my first year 916 Strada goes bang, I'll keep going cheap.

Fwiw, Wix filters for both fuel and oil are pennies compared to OEM.
 

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CCW Belts for me. I like what they do for the community, and its already cheaper than Ducati belts. win-win
 
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