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This is really cool and supports my arguments against people that say "oh you photoshopped that".
Well Said!I fight with my brother all the time about this... he's a purist who thinks the composition should be complete when you snap the shutter, I've always felt that post processing with a light touch could improve even great shots. He got mad at me when I told him NOT to blow out the highs in a morning shot and that it would be better to move the histogram in post but have a raw image with ALL the data to work with, that's started a long ongoing debate... which will continue since I'd never admit to him that he's right...
However... I've got to say that over the last couple years I've drifted more to his way of thinking, and a big part of the reason why is due to the overprocessed look that permeates photography today. When I peruse the flickr stream and 90% of the shots are stupidly oversaturated, dripping color, and with obviously heavy DR editing (compressing here, stretching there), it makes me wonder if the original shot was crap and they had to overtweak it to get something usable.
I think the problem is that the tools available in a darkroom required the development of skills to understand and apply... wheras today anyone can push a slider in photoshop and ruin an otherwise good image. Even at the high end... now people EXPECT to see unrealistically contrasty oversaturated photos that no longer resemble anything you can actually find in the real world, I guess I think it's gone too far.
Yea the human eye is pretty impressive. I've got an 18 stop camera and a number of 14-16 stop cameras (though dynamic range specs are slippery). The human eye is around 20 stops with iris, pretty good.Even with the advancement of digital sensors, their dynamic range is on the order of 4–5 logs. Compare that to the human eye at 9 logs of dynamic range. Ansel was a master of increasing the dynamic range of film and paper. A correctly performed "high dynamic range" digital photo can look great...as long as you don't go overboard with saturated colors (as was mentioned).
Bingo!resolution seems to be the main visible spec used by consumers... totally missing the boat
House!IMO they have an argument that there are some non-linear behaviors of film that result in very pleasing images that are harder to match with digital (sort of like audio tube amps).
Yea, cool as hell... we have the DR to hold the highs without having shadows fall below the noise floor of the shot... I've been blown away by how far the high end (and now even quality consumer) camera's have come. If I had the money I'd be buying a new stills camera every year or two.Digital sensors are getting so good at shadow detail there's almost no excuse for blowing out highlights. You can underexposed by several stops and in post processing bring out the shadows and still have perfectly exposed highlights. Think about wedding photography where the bride is wearing that brilliant white lace dress and everyone else is wearing black.
I believe that's exactly what most people do, and it's not a bad thing. Years ago people did the same thing with their Brownies and Instamatics. Online posts that include a photo or vid are much more popular w/viewers than are those w/only text. Most people are not interested enough in doing more than that to learn the complexities of capturing and storing images w/sophisitcated equipment. And instead of saving prints in a shoebox, now you can save all of your photos in the cloud. It's also much easier now to photograph everything you see because there's no film to buy and no waiting for processing. Instant gratification is a powerful thing. When was the last time you saw a Fotomat?What do people do with their cellphone photos anyway? Just post them or send them to their friends....
One of my pet peeves (to use polite language) is people who use cell phones and cheap point & shoots to take nature photos. In doing so, they can get too close and disturb the animals, such as when they stick the cameras in the faces of nesting baby birds.What do people do with their cellphone photos anyway? Just post them or send them to their friends. Then forgotten? Do man people print them out? Still don't find them impressive for anything larger than a laptop screen. BTW, anyone have any experience with the Tamron 100mm to 600mm lens, especially the second generation recently on the market?