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996r/998r or just forget the r?

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Rettags

Discussion Starter · Aug 24, 2009

I've been researching on the forum for a few days now, trying to pull out every thread about the 996/8r's. I'm looking to purchase one shortly, but would like some input from some more knowledgeable people.

Here are my main questions:
1. Which model is harder to come by? I've come across a couple 996r models, but no 998r yet. Is that just a coincidence?
2. What is the going rate for one of these? On the 996r's that I've come across it seems people are looking for $15-20k.
3. Is buying one of these a bad idea since they're considered collectibles? I typically change out a lot of parts on my bikes, but that would decrease value on these. Which would mean no slipper clutch if I wanted to go that route. I would also want to put on around 2k miles per season.
4. Would I be better off finding a standard 996/8 and choosing my mods to add on? The market for these models seems to be in the buyers favor now.

I saw one on Ebay from Puerto Rico. However, it states there's been head work done, and lists out a lot of aftermarket parts. I would rather find one without any work done. If anyone else has a lead on one of these, please let me know.

Thanks!

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Mospeada

· #2 · Aug 24, 2009

998Rs are way harder to come by. However, one of the finest bikes I've ever ridden was Bong's 996R. Never road a 998.

For that price, I would actually consider a 999R. Sure, the 996/8's 'look' better, but the 999R's are REALLY great riding bikes.

For collectibles, a 996/8R is very very collectible. If you're going to ride it a lot, definately a 999R.

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tye1138

· #3 · Aug 24, 2009

The 996R and 998R are pretty much the same bike. There are some minor differences, but the 996R is rarer.

IDK if I'd bother with an R from that generation. They're mainly collectors items and continue to get the collectors price for them, similar to the 999R.

The next best bet is what I'd get if I were on the market for one. The 998 Final Edition. They were made of left-over parts from the original run and I'm pretty sure they were out in 2004. They're a bit easier to come by, very similar configuration and motor. Plus, because they don't have the carbon fiber bits, they don't retain that ridiculous collectors premium.

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Rettags

Discussion Starter · #4 · Aug 24, 2009

Thanks for the info guys. I was considering the 998 FE and also the S models, but figured I would look into the R's first. Plus I could swap parts and not feel guilty for ruining a collectible.
So tye1138, you think the 998 FE is the way to go over an S?

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Andrew

· #5 · Aug 24, 2009

Rettags said:
Here are my main questions:
1. Which model is harder to come by? I've come across a couple 996r models, but no 998r yet. Is that just a coincidence?
2. What is the going rate for one of these? On the 996r's that I've come across it seems people are looking for $15-20k.
3. Is buying one of these a bad idea since they're considered collectibles? I typically change out a lot of parts on my bikes, but that would decrease value on these. Which would mean no slipper clutch if I wanted to go that route. I would also want to put on around 2k miles per season.
4. Would I be better off finding a standard 996/8 and choosing my mods to add on? The market for these models seems to be in the buyers favor now.

The 996R was limited to 500 examples (only the first 350 have the plate on the headstock) and about 700 examples of the 998R were produced. Availibilty is entirely dependent on how many were delivered to your market.
They are worth what the next person is prepared to pay.
Both are very collectable, it's your bike so you an do what you want with it, however be sensible start with an unmolested one, keep the original parts so you can revert it back to stock later.
By the way these bike are so full of carbon and other exotic parts that most typical user mods have already been done by the factory (you may not need to modify it as much as you typically do).
Newer = faster and as the other poster said a 999R is even better again and here in Australia a 999R would likely be cheaper too.
Andrew...

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tye1138

· #6 · Aug 24, 2009

Rettags said:
Thanks for the info guys. I was considering the 998 FE and also the S models, but figured I would look into the R's first. Plus I could swap parts and not feel guilty for ruining a collectible.
So tye1138, you think the 998 FE is the way to go over an S?

Hell yea, the FE has a different motor then the US version of the S.

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cms75

· #7 · Aug 24, 2009

Mospeada said:
However, one of the finest bikes I've ever ridden was Bong's 996R.

Funny someone mentioned this, the bike I'm selling is Bong's old 996r.

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Mospeada

· #8 · Aug 25, 2009

cms75 said:
Funny someone mentioned this, the bike I'm selling is Bong's old 996r.

WHAT?! I told Bong years ago that if he was going to sell, email me first! (but he did say there was already a line.....). This was at Miller in '04.

Aw crap! I wish I was in a position to pick it up, because that bike was DONE and needed nothing! I'm selling my race bike as well.

Good luck with the sale. If I had the money, I would buy it without question. THAT BIKE is what started me thinking that I was really just tired of 4 cylinders, and wanted to get a Duc. Course, took me nearly 4 years later...

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