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This is exactly why I need to keep dropping by from time-to-time. Always something to learn. :grin2:
 

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I asked Cagiva for several dealers names back when I moved to Zürich and wanted to buy one and ship it over. Got a nice response from their national sales manager (bet he was worried about getting paid). Sent me the product brochure one pager. It shows the exact bike I ended up buying from MCC. You will also note that "specs are subject to change".
 

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all vehicle brochures say specs are subject to change. for example the senna ii show bike had a carbon airbox. when they arrived, the airbox was painted plastic, which was the spec for the model if you read the spec. but by then the people who came to pick them up expecting a carbon airbox were throwing hissy fits. for the money you'd have expected one.

the f1 spec would have been quite variant because of the changes they were making in production. they made lots of very obvious changes to them for what was a small run model.

the usa 1993 yellow 900sl is a euro 1992 model year spec bike in yellow. first yellow euro 900sl was 1995. 1993 euro spec sl had std 900ss wheels and front discs and clutch cover.
 

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all vehicle brochures say specs are subject to change. for example the senna ii show bike had a carbon airbox. when they arrived, the airbox was painted plastic, which was the spec for the model if you read the spec. but by then the people who came to pick them up expecting a carbon airbox were throwing hissy fits. for the money you'd have expected one.

the f1 spec would have been quite variant because of the changes they were making in production. they made lots of very obvious changes to them for what was a small run model.

the usa 1993 yellow 900sl is a euro 1992 model year spec bike in yellow. first yellow euro 900sl was 1995. 1993 euro spec sl had std 900ss wheels and front discs and clutch cover.
I can only go by what I've seen and read. I was in the UK in 1992. The first 900 Superlight I ever saw was there, in Oxford and it was yellow with a white frame in probably early 1993 (I deployed to the middle east in May of 93 so it had to be before then) .

The Falloon books that cover the Superlight as well as the Superlight registry also show there were yellow bikes in Europe before 1995. One of the Falloon books I have states there were no yellow Superlights for Europe or Australia in 1992. But I saw one in Oxford as mentioned above.

The same Falloon book also states the 1994 model year, most of the Superlights produced were yellow, though it was still available in red. The only year that I cannot pin down with certainty is the (actual) 1993 Superlight.

The Superlight register shows some 1993s in yellow, assuming of course that they were original and not repainted. None of the Falloon books I have pins down the available colors for 1993. All the other years they do.

Also, Bike magazine from 1993 had an article showing a yellow Superlight that asked the question of whether or not the Superlight was any lighter than the SS/SP (it was by some 4lbs) and if were worth the premium price over it.

I still have that issue somewhere (it isn't like my memory from 1993 would be that good) and actually reread the article only a year or so ago.....sean
 

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what you've seen is what you've seen, can't argue with that. things did end up where they weren't meant to be. 50 or so 1994 888ltd (usa only model) went back to europe because they couldn't sell them in the usa. we got some 90ss/sp out here late 96, i think 20 came in and we got sent a couple for customers who were waiting for the normal euro spec 900ss - wasn't expected.

the white frame with yellow 900sl was usa specific, like the 91 or 92 white frame with black panels 900ss.

the 1993 900sl was much reduced spec wise compared to the euro 92. carbon front and rear guards, std wheels, std front discs, silver aluminium non slotted clutch cover. there's a very original one about 5 metres from me.

i thought the first yellow ones we saw were 95, but certainly could be wrong. i started at the dealership mid 94 and there hadn't been any there as yet. they were fairly hard to sell (even red ones) until they stopped making them, then people wanted them.

there was an american article reprinted out here showing a yellow 900sl and 888, talking about the worth of the sl. i was surprised to see a yellow one, we hadn't seen them then.
 

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what you've seen is what you've seen, can't argue with that. things did end up where they weren't meant to be. 50 or so 1994 888ltd (usa only model) went back to europe because they couldn't sell them in the usa. we got some 90ss/sp out here late 96, i think 20 came in and we got sent a couple for customers who were waiting for the normal euro spec 900ss - wasn't expected.

the white frame with yellow 900sl was usa specific, like the 91 or 92 white frame with black panels 900ss.
I don't know for certain but I thought the white frame was just what ducati painted them from whenever up to 1992. Nothing after that came with a white one to my knowledge. I know the first Ducati I saw in the UK was an 851 and it had a white frame. That was in Aylesbury I think, just outside London.

The Superlight however, that one is etched in my memory as it was the first moment I ever experienced what I call "Ducati Lust".

I don't mean to derail the thread but that moment was like something out of a movie. I was in downtown Oxford at the Kawasaki dealer buying parts for my old ZX-7.

It was crappy out, overcast and drizzling and/or misting down between real rain. I was walking back up the alley towards the car park when the clouds parted a bit, and tiny ray of sunshine shone down. It illuminated this shop window a few yards ahead of me.

As I got there, in the window was the Superlight. I was gobsmacked. I stood there, probably with my jaw on the floor for some time. I don't know how long exactly, maybe 10 seconds, maybe 5. Then, as quick as it opened, the hole closed up and the gloom returned.

As I looked up to get on my way, I realized I wasn't alone in being mesmerized. There were probably 5 or 6 people in the same state as me. Men, women, old and young...all smitten by the site of this bike on its plinth in a shop window.

Like I wrote, the moment is etched in my brain.

the 1993 900sl was much reduced spec wise compared to the euro 92. carbon front and rear guards, std wheels, std front discs, silver aluminium non slotted clutch cover. there's a very original one about 5 metres from me.
Oh, no argument there. All the research I've done indicates the same.
i thought the first yellow ones we saw were 95, but certainly could be wrong. i started at the dealership mid 94 and there hadn't been any there as yet. they were fairly hard to sell (even red ones) until they stopped making them, then people wanted them.

there was an american article reprinted out here showing a yellow 900sl and 888, talking about the worth of the sl. i was surprised to see a yellow one, we hadn't seen them then.
I'm not saying you're wrong there. Only that I saw them in Europe. I've read That some bike configurations were meant for Europe and Australia but never made it out of Europe.

I don't recall anymore what year, but I remember reading that only red Superlights that year were delivered to Australia. Another year that only 20 yellow ones were delivered there.

What I've learned is, there isn't anything set in stone when it comes to what Ducati did or didn't do with regard to what bikes went where. Not only that but Ducati didn't exactly keep records to the level of detail and accuracy that say, BMW does. I imagine also that there is a grain of truth to all of the stories you hear of the things that went on. There just isn't any verifiable documentation to sort out the facts from fiction.....sean
 

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I don't know for certain but I thought the white frame was just what ducati painted them from whenever up to 1992. Nothing after that came with a white one to my knowledge. I know the first Ducati I saw in the UK was an 851 and it had a white frame. That was in Aylesbury I think, just outside London.

The Superlight however, that one is etched in my memory as it was the first moment I ever experienced what I call "Ducati Lust".

I don't mean to derail the thread but that moment was like something out of a movie. I was in downtown Oxford at the Kawasaki dealer buying parts for my old ZX-7.

It was crappy out, overcast and drizzling and/or misting down between real rain. I was walking back up the alley towards the car park when the clouds parted a bit, and tiny ray of sunshine shone down. It illuminated this shop window a few yards ahead of me.

As I got there, in the window was the Superlight. I was gobsmacked. I stood there, probably with my jaw on the floor for some time. I don't know how long exactly, maybe 10 seconds, maybe 5. Then, as quick as it opened, the hole closed up and the gloom returned.

As I looked up to get on my way, I realized I wasn't alone in being mesmerized. There were probably 5 or 6 people in the same state as me. Men, women, old and young...all smitten by the site of this bike on its plinth in a shop window.

Like I wrote, the moment is etched in my brain.


Oh, no argument there. All the research I've done indicates the same.

I'm not saying you're wrong there. Only that I saw them in Europe. I've read That some bike configurations were meant for Europe and Australia but never made it out of Europe.

I don't recall anymore what year, but I remember reading that only red Superlights that year were delivered to Australia. Another year that only 20 yellow ones were delivered there.

What I've learned is, there isn't anything set in stone when it comes to what Ducati did or didn't do with regard to what bikes went where. Not only that but Ducati didn't exactly keep records to the level of detail and accuracy that say, BMW does. I imagine also that there is a grain of truth to all of the stories you hear of the things that went on. There just isn't any verifiable documentation to sort out the facts from fiction.....sean
The way you describe your first sighting of a Superlight was absolutely epic.

I might be biased because I own one, but I believe the Superlight although nothing special has to be one of the most beautiful motorcycles ever made.
 

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900ss 900sL 900SP

swingarms- aluminum swingarms on all, 2 variations based on early or late model.

Frame= pre-900sp/CR/FE Same as 900ss 94-97 in USA- most prone to crack, early frames are not common to crack in my experience.
Engine= 91-92 short crank/1993 long short crank long crank
rectifier= crap crap still crap
forks= fully adjustable showa 41 same same
brakes= black line brembos coffin master/goldline calipers remote masters blackline/goldline calipers
fairings= full and short full only Full only
cyl. studs chrome chrome chrome except 1997 IIRC
tail= 2-up seat solo only 2-up seat
Rotors= steel center stainless iron full floaters iron full floaters
rear caliper mount= top mount top mount floating underslung rear caliper
pipes= low high low
crank plug might be out don't look you know the answer.


probably missed some things and keep in mind this information is on US models only as that all I see.
Wow Eric color coded and all, I think Ian Falloon could learn from you.
 

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all 91 and 92 models had white frames. 91 models had white wheels, 92 models black wheels except the 900sl with the 2 piece. 93 models gold frames and black wheels, except 900sl which had gold wheels, same as 888sp5. 94 on gold frames and wheels.

euro models were all red bodywork until the 900sl in yellow for 94 or 95. the 91 - 93 yellow sl and black ss bodywork was nominally only usa spec.
 

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And never assume what you see is as delivered. At the dealership there were more than a few bikes stripped and painted to a different color before the bike was sold as well as by customer request before delivery. I remember a 1998 FE that was swapped to red by a member here as well as a st being painted yellow before it was an option. then there was the poor 620ss that changed colors about 3-4 times trying to find it a home ,including giving it away on a radio station. The winner of the bike traded it back for another model IIRC.
 

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one of the first bmw we sold when we became a dealer was a k1100rs that was a light bright green. weird arse colour. part of the deal was it became pearl white. which improved the colour, but unfortunately the rest of it was still the same piece of bavarian crap.

poor 620ss. i can imagine the collected groans of despair when it came back for trade in. we had a demo one that took sometime to offload. not as bad as the 650 raptor demo we had - that actually truly was unsellable. business had to go broke to be relieved of it.
 

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Part of the problem is that Ducati never was very good at listing the differences between models, and the books everyone uses to research, like Fallon’s, are not accurate. Read his section on the SS, full of errors. I’m guessing the sections on other models are no better.
 

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I believe Bruce Meyers (BCM motorsports owner) still has the 1996? husqvarna 125 he could not sell and just sold his 900 Elefant that became his own bike mainly because no one else wanted it.

There is a dealer not far from here that is happy enough to simply keep them in the crates and if you want a crated vintage bike expect to pay for it.
 

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Part of the problem is that Ducati never was very good at listing the differences between models, and the books everyone uses to research, like Fallon’s, are not accurate. Read his section on the SS, full of errors. I’m guessing the sections on other models are no better.
Which section? I have 4 different books from him, each with its own section on the Superlight as well as year by year differences of the SS, SP and CR including displacement additions.

Falloon's books might contain errors but he goes to the factory for his research. So, the records that weren't kept dictate the information he bases his books on.....sean
 

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Which section? I have 4 different books from him, each with its own section on the Superlight as well as year by year differences of the SS, SP and CR including displacement additions.

Falloon's books might contain errors but he goes to the factory for his research. So, the records that weren't kept dictate the information he bases his books on.....sean
Duc96 is correct Ian faloon has made several errors, not only on the 900ss bikes but also the 851 going through the years. I have a friend that has filed all the errors he has found, Ill try and get the info and report back. I think the biggest error he makes which was mentioned several times is the differences between the USA vs european models.
 

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Yes IIRC carbon front ,rear hugger and a slotted carbon clutch cover on the SL. And to be correct withing a few days of ownership the correct carbon should turn a nice cloudy faded green as they had not yet figured the sunlight effected the carbon resins. carbon from Ducati in this era did not stay clear if the bike was ridden much and saw sunlight. A perfect carbon part has likely not been used much, has been re-finished or is a reproduction/aftermarket piece.

standard ole 900ss had no carbon.

900sp had carbon front and hugger but a solid carbon cover iirc
Just FYI - my SL ('95 SL IV) has a solid carbon clutch cover...
 

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lol, I had tried to mention before my experience is with US models which were different than everyone else's. No first hand contact with models outside of North America.

So for non-North American models what specs did they have and for what year range?

Did anyone else get the Magnesium/aluminum wheels (which is what sets the bike apart IMHO)

Did the early bikes have the slotted carbon cover?

What was different on the non-North American superlight from the SP?

I know everyone else got the next generation bike a year earlier than we did but was the FE sold elsewhere and how different was it from the non-North American superlight?
 
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