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I've ridden a few quick jap bikes and end up thinking wow so much top end power. But I get back on the SS and get on the throttle out of a few corners aggressive and I am again convinced its not top end power that gives me a buzz its the way I can get on the power early and aggressive on the SS and really get an adrenalin rush, perfect for the street I'd say whatever level rider you are.

Carb'd 900SS is perfection ... :)
I've enjoyed my 900 for ... um... 142 miles now. It rides rough but has power delivery like my DRZ - ready for use anywhere. It's very tolerant of a heavy hand and the engine is nice. But my Honda would whup it everywhere but in the city. Once I get the suspension sorted: I suspect it'll make a great compromise between my CBR and my DRZ.

But I do miss the rush of the CBR when I'm on the Duc.
 

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I've enjoyed my 900 for ... um... 142 miles now. It rides rough but has power delivery like my DRZ - ready for use anywhere. It's very tolerant of a heavy hand and the engine is nice. But my Honda would whup it everywhere but in the city. Once I get the suspension sorted: I suspect it'll make a great compromise between my CBR and my DRZ.

But I do miss the rush of the CBR when I'm on the Duc.
But I do miss the rush of the CBR when I'm on the Duc
no offense, but you mean the rush of your CBR/R1/GSXR/ZX?:rolleyes: They all feel the same. They are so ubiquitous.

But my Honda would whup it everywhere but in the city.
You said your CBR would whoop up up anywhere but in the city? I am confused, the city is the WORST splace for a Ducati???:confused:

I am glad you are riding one, just consfused?
 

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Really? The Duck is great around town. Pulls away cleanly at lights, putters along nicely with traffic and can pull away in any gear at any RPM.The Honda is high speed material. No bottom end and a mad rush up top. Each inline 4 has its own character; they're great!
 

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no offense, but you mean the rush of your CBR/R1/GSXR/ZX?:rolleyes: They all feel the same. They are so ubiquitous.
I find quotes like these very interesting and quite typical of most of the members here.

I cut my teeth on Japanese bikes and loved them all. No two of them were alike and I had many.

I made the mistake a few weeks ago of test riding the 2008 busa and had to have one (pic below) to join Lola in the garage. I rode the Kawasaki ZX14 too at the same dealership. The two bikes were as different as they could be to ride.

I have since joined 2 busa forums and ALL they talk about is speed and power and how to increase both. Strangely, not a single member of either forum has run down another manufacturer's product. A bit of light-hearted ZX14 teasing is about it.

I love my SS, but in comparison to the busa she is rough, jittery, and sloooow (although prettier, easier to work on, and way more flickable to be sure).

You wanna stick to one manufacturer and run down all the bikes made by an entire country that's your privilege. But you're missing out on a whole lot of good clean fun!
 

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Really? The Duck is great around town. Pulls away cleanly at lights, putters along nicely with traffic and can pull away in any gear at any RPM.The Honda is high speed material. No bottom end and a mad rush up top. Each inline 4 has its own character; they're great!
I disagree, at least as concerns the SS (and my ST2).

The only Ducati I own or have ridden that isn't a total PIA around town is my 999R. My SS and ST2 both suck at constant speed. My LeMans is far better than either, it's a toss up if it or the 999R is better.

Last week I rode a 1098R and a HM1100S. The 1098R was actually of the better of the two at slow speeds (actually, at any speed). I Spent an hour and a half on an 848 at lunchtime, it also sucked at low speeds, though this was mainly due to the crappy low end torque of the smaller motor combined with the OEM gearing.

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The only Ducati I own or have ridden that isn't a total PIA around town is my 999R. My SS and ST2 both suck at constant speed.
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I have to say the SS is NOT a great all rounder. On hairpin bends with perfect surfaces I'd take the SS over anything I have ridden for pure fun, but both the Busa and the Bonnie are much better at slower speeds and the uneven road surfaces of Texas.

We're gonna have to watch this Tom. That's twice in one day we agree mate.

Now...About getting those bikes of yours painted...!
 

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I have to say the SS is NOT a great all rounder. On hairpin bends with perfect surfaces I'd take the SS over anything I have ridden for pure fun, but both the Busa and the Bonnie are much better at slower speeds and the uneven road surfaces of Texas.

We're gonna have to watch this Tom. That's twice in one day we agree mate.

Now...About getting those bikes of yours painted...!
+1 Doc. Actually the 1970 Bonneville is by far the best around town bike I have. I rode it today after a short 955 blast. It is a blast by the way though, even if it did develop an oil leak somewhere around the timing case within 100 miles after I bought it :(

My SS is a GREAT back road bike, but even with the Keihins and coils not as good around town. But that's not why I bought it either. Front side of Palomar is all smiles. S22 too for that matter.
 

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All reasons why I turn down all offers to ride my mates Jap bikes these days ... the SS is my bike and the only bike I want, I ride it everyday and in all weather conditions and I am happy to take her for all her good and her bad points, none of which worry me in the slightest whether in slow traffic or the open road.

I was actually out yesterday enjoying a coffee at a big Suzuki dealer and for all the bikes sitting around between the new bikes for sale and the customised bikes including an ugly fat turbo'd 'Busa I am just not interested, they'll all just be old Jap bikes in a few years ... the pick of the Jap bikes around was my mates '85 GSX-R I'd have that over all the new stuff ...

Happiness with a bike is a state of mind ...
 

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All reasons why I turn down all offers to ride my mates Jap bikes these days ... the SS is my bike and the only bike I want
Now THAT is eloquence itself.

I have never heard the very definition of lack of sophistication, ignorance, narrow-mindedness, and xenophobia so succinctly put before.

Bravo.

Personally, I'll keep experiencing every motorcycle I can, of every type I can, from every country I can. And I'll buy every one I can afford and find time to ride.
 

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I love my 800ss. But give me back my old Hodaka "pack rat". now THAT, was an emeffin motorcycle. so there.
 

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Personally, I'll keep experiencing every motorcycle I can, of every type I can, from every country I can. And I'll buy every one I can afford and find time to ride.
Ditto.

I still want to ride a Ural sidecar and a Can-Am Spyder... Last year I got the chance to try out a '07 R1 and MT-01: both were great experiences - but not bikes I would ever buy for myself.
 

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I find quotes like these very interesting and quite typical of most of the members here.

I cut my teeth on Japanese bikes and loved them all. No two of them were alike and I had many.

I made the mistake a few weeks ago of test riding the 2008 busa and had to have one (pic below) to join Lola in the garage. I rode the Kawasaki ZX14 too at the same dealership. The two bikes were as different as they could be to ride.

I have since joined 2 busa forums and ALL they talk about is speed and power and how to increase both. Strangely, not a single member of either forum has run down another manufacturer's product. A bit of light-hearted ZX14 teasing is about it.

I love my SS, but in comparison to the busa she is rough, jittery, and sloooow (although prettier, easier to work on, and way more flickable to be sure).

You wanna stick to one manufacturer and run down all the bikes made by an entire country that's your privilege. But you're missing out on a whole lot of good clean fun!
I cut my teeth on Japanese bikes and loved them all. No two of them were alike and I had many.
I have ridden many, and I honestly cannot tell a major difference in a powerband between any of them except the biggest bores, and even then, all sound virtually the same and look equally over the top. I know a Harley when I hear it, A Ducati when I hear it, and a Vacuum Cleaner with no baffle when I hear it (Japanese Bikes)..CBR? GSX R? cant tell. Add an exaust system and a swarm of bees comes to mind.

I love my SS, but in comparison to the busa she is rough, jittery, and sloooow (although prettier, easier to work on, and way more flickable to be sure).
Dude, I like your other bikes, and try not to take any offense to this cause I am nobody, but that busa you posted might possibly be the most unattractive bike I have seen on this forum. There is no amount of power (50% of which is virtually unuseable anyway) that would ever make me get on that thing. Just my opinon, but that thing has zero cache. Judging by your good taste in other bikes I am shocked you would even own one of those. But if you love it, good for you.

You wanna stick to one manufacturer and run down all the bikes made by an entire country that's your privilege. But you're missing out on a whole lot of good clean fun
I have been there done that, and I am not running them down by sayng they all feel the same. They are quality machines and they have their place....in someone elses garage.:)
 

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Dude, I like your other bikes, and try not to take any offense to this cause I am nobody, but that busa you posted might possibly be the most unattractive bike I have seen on this forum. There is no amount of power (50% of which is virtually unuseable anyway) that would ever make me get on that thing. Just my opinon, but that thing has zero cache. Judging by your good taste in other bikes I am shocked you would even own one of those. But if you love it, good for you.
No argument from me about the appearance. My SS is infinitely more elegant, but I did not buy the busa for its looks. Although I have to say the muscular lump of a bike is growing on me.

Where I disagree totally is the power being unusable (although I would have agreed with you before I'd ridden one). I will never take this thing to the limit unless I get into drag racing (and you'd be surprised how many busa owners do drag them), but all that power still makes it a blast to ride, and the difference is glaringly apparent if I ride the busa then jump on the SS.

I know it sounds counterintuitive, but having all that power and torque on tap makes the busa SO much more forgiving and easy to ride. I can cruise around town at 2000rpm in top (around 45mph), pull on to the freeway and accelerate to 70 in no time flat without dropping a single cog.

If I still lived in England or Maine or Vermont I doubt I'd want any other bike than the SS, but I don't. There are very few roads in north Texas where I can use all that handling because the road surfaces here are crap, particularly in the bends. Again, it may seem odd, but the busa handles better on these roads because the MUCH lower height and extra weight makes it feel more solid on uneven pavement. For the same reasons it is far less affected by the strong Texas cross winds (the SS feels like a kite sometimes).

No way I'da bought a busa if I hadn't been talked into test riding one by the dealer. Certainly its looks weren't the deciding factor. But its smooth, apparently infinite power combined with its comfortable riding position, light clutch, smooth gearbox, and quiet, growling exhaust note make it a pure joy to ride.

In short, we will have to just disagree. Bikes are like religion...no amount of persuasion will be affective in convincing a true believer he is wrong.
 

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Ok. Got a little back-to-back-to-back riding time w/ the CBR and the Duc.

Yes: the Duc is better around town. Happily totes my fat arse around at low speeds and, without complaint, pulls cleanly from lights (we have too many lights and too few roundabouts here) and has a very easy-to-ride linear power delivery that has no issue holding 60km/h speeds (~40mph) all afternoon long. Not to mention is has the sound that confounds the crap out of the Harley riders. The CBR has better handling and, once moving above 30km/h (~20mph); has far better power delivery (read: more power).

I gotta improve the handling of the Duc.
 

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No argument from me about the appearance. My SS is infinitely more elegant, but I did not buy the busa for its looks. Although I have to say the muscular lump of a bike is growing on me.

Where I disagree totally is the power being unusable (although I would have agreed with you before I'd ridden one). I will never take this thing to the limit unless I get into drag racing (and you'd be surprised how many busa owners do drag them), but all that power still makes it a blast to ride, and the difference is glaringly apparent if I ride the busa then jump on the SS.

I know it sounds counterintuitive, but having all that power and torque on tap makes the busa SO much more forgiving and easy to ride. I can cruise around town at 2000rpm in top (around 45mph), pull on to the freeway and accelerate to 70 in no time flat without dropping a single cog.

If I still lived in England or Maine or Vermont I doubt I'd want any other bike than the SS, but I don't. There are very few roads in north Texas where I can use all that handling because the road surfaces here are crap, particularly in the bends. Again, it may seem odd, but the busa handles better on these roads because the MUCH lower height and extra weight makes it feel more solid on uneven pavement. For the same reasons it is far less affected by the strong Texas cross winds (the SS feels like a kite sometimes).

No way I'da bought a busa if I hadn't been talked into test riding one by the dealer. Certainly its looks weren't the deciding factor. But its smooth, apparently infinite power combined with its comfortable riding position, light clutch, smooth gearbox, and quiet, growling exhaust note make it a pure joy to ride.

In short, we will have to just disagree. Bikes are like religion...no amount of persuasion will be affective in convincing a true believer he is wrong.
I can see the power making it easier to ride, fair enough. I had a fiji1200 and it was nice not to have to downshift on the freeway to pass. I just think they lack the character that brings me to Duck.

You do realize how fucking cool that bonneville looks right? I mean, I am becoming a fan of older eclectic bikes. Maybe I am just too old (40) and I beat the shit out of my FZ750 when I bought it new, and this weekend I went up nine to alices rest. and just enjoyed the Sound of the Duck in the trees.

I appreciate you not getting butt hurt about the criticism of the Busa, cause I was just trying to be honest. Seems like you love it, and that is all that matters.
 

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You do realize how fucking cool that bonneville looks right? I mean, I am becoming a fan of older eclectic bikes.
I do indeed. It remains by far the best bike to ride on city streets I have ridden. It shares the same elegant simplicity of the SS, well even simpler really because it is carbed, but is MUCH smoother and the clutch is the lightest ever (a cable by the way, not hydraulic). People ask me all the time if I renovated it myself.

The wife loves that I bought the busa, cos now she gets to ride her bike occasionally.
 

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with an Ohlins shock, maxxed out ride height, race-tech fork springs, sticky rubber and cerriani damper, my SS absolutely rails corners. i can run with anything on the street through the corners.

i might be dusted on the straights, but if the road stays tight, all they're going to see is the back of a 14 year old Duc!

viva Ducati!
 
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