I'll wait until I see/ hear one in real life before I decide if I like it or not.
The "new" monster has divided opinions on what makes a real monster and most of the arguments can be equally applied to monsters made in the last decade.
"Its not a monster if it has a radiator"
Nonsense. The radiator on the S4/S4R/S4RS fills the front out and makes those models look beefier than any air cooled model and who wouldn't want a monster with a superbike engine?
"Its not a monster without a trellis frame"
That means the recent models are only half a monster as the trellis has been absent from the back half for a while now.
If we're looking at appearances why not look at swing arms, exhausts and and the front on view?
Should a monster have a cast alloy swing arm or some spaghetti monstrosity?
Neither are anything like the original monster.
Shouldn't a "real" monster have low slung exhausts like the original?
How about a round headlight?
Don't even get me started on the goofy looking clusters and bikini fairings on some of the later offerings.
The less said about plastic fuel tanks with air holes in them the better.
I may cop some flack for my opinion but a the last "real" monster was made in the early 2000s and was air cooled but the best monster was the S4 due to it having ALL of the original styling with the added bonus of the iconic 916 engine.
It was good enough for Foggy and its good enough for me.
That's my opinion.
Feel free to waste your time trying to change it. View attachment 999835 You know I'm right.
You're right, but I think they had the frankenbike in the back of their mind. They even mentioned the panigale derived frame/intake which i think is fantastic. The tail even looks panigale inspired. That said, I hate that it wouldn't look like a ducati if you took the logos off and painted it green, so I agree with you on that.Yes the OG monster was a parts bin but due to the small size of Ducati at the time this was necessary.
Superbike swingarm and rear suspension
Superbike forks (also shared with the supersport)
superbike and supersport wheels
If the new bike is a similar parts bin then yes by definition it should have the same name. I do feel on looks I am with jackie treehorn on this as it looks like it would blend in . It used to be when i wasd at the race track in the pits you could spot a Ducati by the distinct looks much was due to the trellis, now the panigales (which are great bikes) just disappear into the mix of everything else. I do like the idea of the the superlight minimalist frame, too bad it just looks like another bracket holding things on. Maybe if they made it a different color or raw aluminum then it would make me happier or I would just say yuck paint that thing black it is ugly. I expect we will find out soon enough.
Yes I am with you on the weight I cannot wait to get one to the local track to check wet weight, keep in mind the lighter they start the harder it is to lose weight so what will the Cat and muffler weigh when it gets swapped? I do think this should have good performance but it will need to be pretty special to get me off my 93 that is probably not far off from this one in weight but with 10-20% less power. The other bits to compare like ride comfort and light effectiveness will be determined at some point in the future.
Did you type all that out or use ctrl-v a lot? 😉like the single guys wailed when they started making twins, like the bevel guys wailed when they put belts on them, like everyone wailed when cagiva bought it, like the air cooled guys wailed when they went watercooled and 4v, like the 916 lovers wailed when the 999 came out, like the ss guys wailed when the ssie came out, like the ss guys wailed when the ss name was revived, like they wailed when they made an adventure bike, like they wailed when they made a cruiser.