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2001 748R repair questions

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DoubleDown

Discussion Starter · Oct 7, 2009 (Edited)

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New to the forum. I have a 2001 748r with all the goodies, factory pro chip, full exhaust, etc and unfortunately the rain got the best of me a few months backside and slide on the side damaging fairings, windshield, gas tank, etc.

I am having it repaired, painted and need to find out where to get the stickers for the fairings, the tank, and the seat striping (see pics...these are before the wreck).

Also, need to find screws for the windshield and the "rivets" that connect the upper fairing to lower.

Appreciate any help, really want to get her going again.

Thanks,

Chris

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tye1138

· #2 · Oct 7, 2009

Ducati dealers usually carry the parts your looking for.

DoubleDown

Discussion Starter · #3 · Oct 7, 2009

My local Ducati dealer sucks, which is why I am going the route I am going.

HTNHARD

· #4 · Oct 7, 2009

Sorry to hear about your spill. If the seat bothers you , just buy a Corbin or Sargent. Below are some links to help you. Also, I think your bike is just a 748. Without the "R". I dont see the Ohlins front suspension which all "R" bikes have. Good luck. Cant wait to see the finished product.

http://www.tastynuts.com/Products/Ducati_748-916-996-998
http://www.xtreemedecals.com/defaul...t=1&--woSECTIONSdatarq=168&--SECTIONSword=ww1

theductor

· #5 · Oct 7, 2009

I have bought decals from xtreme decals and are of good quality and are a lot cheaper than the dealer. They come from Malta and take around 4-5 days.

DoubleDown

Discussion Starter · #6 · Oct 7, 2009

It is an "R", in 2001 they went to different fronts and bigger airbox.

Found what I need, appreciate the help.

mbevans

· #7 · Oct 7, 2009

Check out the
www.Tapeworks.com

I buy all my Ducati decals from them, VERY high quality, very fast shippment, perfectly sized.

Cheers,
M

HTNHARD

· #8 · Oct 7, 2009

DoubleDown said:
It is an "R", in 2001 they went to different fronts and bigger airbox.

Found what I need, appreciate the help.

Is that true Tye? I need to get my facts straight.

tye1138

· #9 · Oct 7, 2009

The 1999/2000's used the standard injection system found on the 748's. The 2001+ had shower injectors, so the airbox was different. It also takes a different filtration system.

The 1999 and 2000's have Showa forks and Ohlins shock. 2001/2002 has Ohlins all the way around. The 2002 also has the "newer" desmoquattro motor with the shorter head. Kind of a strange beast...

HTNHARD

· #10 · Oct 7, 2009

What about not having Ohlins forks up front?

tye1138

· #11 · Oct 8, 2009

HTNHARD said:
What about not having Ohlins forks up front?

Read what I said above very carefully and you shall find your answer.

94CobraR

· #12 · Oct 8, 2009

tye1138 said:
The 1999/2000's used the standard injection system found on the 748's. The 2001+ had shower injectors, so the airbox was different. It also takes a different filtration system.

The 1999 and 2000's have Showa forks and Ohlins shock. 2001/2002 has Ohlins all the way around. The 2002 also has the "newer" desmoquattro motor with the shorter head. Kind of a strange beast...

What??? No 1999 748R's were around...first year was 2000. Had Showa all the way around. Had shower injection and larger airbox. 2001 had a CF airbox, same volume and had the 4-pad brakes and ohlins steering damper, plus the aforementioned forks and rear shock. The 2002 got the new fairing and decals and nothing else different then the 01 model.

94CobraR

· #13 · Oct 8, 2009

Oh...slipper clutches were standard and so were the 36 and 30mm valves. Wider timing belts and better cams...

tye1138

· #14 · Oct 8, 2009

94CobraR said:
What??? No 1999 748R's were around...first year was 2000. Had Showa all the way around. Had shower injection and larger airbox. 2001 had a CF airbox, same volume and had the 4-pad brakes and ohlins steering damper, plus the aforementioned forks and rear shock. The 2002 got the new fairing and decals and nothing else different then the 01 model.

Jimmy my lad, I wish you well, but you really need to learn your facts better.

The 748R came out at the same time the 748RS came out which was 1999. Why do I know that? Because the 748R was a homologation special, it was a de-tuned version of the 748RS, which started to race in 1999. Ducati didn't start producing motorcycles with shower injectors until late 2000. This is why you see some 748R's with showers and some without. Its safe to say, 2001+ have showers, have the larger CF airbox and most importantly have the ohlins fork/shock.

One thing I was wrong about when I posted was the showa shock on the 1999-2000 models. It wasn't until the late 2000 production (2001 model year) 748R's with the shower injectors, that the Ohlins shock was introduced.

Anyhow, if you want the full history on the 748RS/748R, pick up Ian Falloon's book about the Desmoquattro's. NOBODY has ever posted such accurate information on the internet, not even me. If I had the book in front of me, I'd write it in verbatim for ya.

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94CobraR

· #15 · Oct 8, 2009

tye1138 said:
Jimmy my lad, I wish you well, but you really need to learn your facts better.

The 748R came out at the same time the 748RS came out which was 1999. Why do I know that? Because the 748R was a homologation special, it was a de-tuned version of the 748RS, which started to race in 1999. Ducati didn't start producing motorcycles with shower injectors until late 2000. This is why you see some 748R's with showers and some without. Its safe to say, 2001+ have showers, have the larger CF airbox and most importantly have the ohlins fork/shock.

One thing I was wrong about when I posted was the showa shock on the 1999-2000 models. It wasn't until the late 2000 production (2001 model year) 748R's with the shower injectors, that the Ohlins shock was introduced.

Anyhow, if you want the full history on the 748RS/748R, pick up Ian Falloon's book about the Desmoquattro's. NOBODY has ever posted such accurate information on the internet, not even me. If I had the book in front of me, I'd write it in verbatim for ya.

You know I have the book right in front of me.

The airbox was the same size on ALL the 748R bikes...difference is the carbon fiber box.
The 748 Race model is different then the 748R, Tye. The R was the street version, which came out in 2000...clearly stated in his book. And all had the shower injectors. I have YET to see anyone with a R model that didn't have shower injectors. Even Ian's book says the 2000-2002 models only have shower injectors. Please tell me what page you're looking at says it differently.

And don't try to put the Tye spin on it by saying LATE 2000 models, then saying 2001. They're called 2001 models because that's the designated year of the bike. Laddy.

rz33v4

· #16 · Oct 8, 2009

I had a 2001 748R, which had a steering damper, but not the Ohlins damper.

tye1138

· #17 · Oct 8, 2009

So I was wrong about 2 things; No Ohlins shock in the pre 2001's and ALL 748R's had showers, even though the same year's 748RS didn't (which is very confusing to me). But this is Ducati we're talking about and just because Ian Falloon says the bikes were made from 2000+ doesn't mean he's right... I don't even know if there is a definite answer to this question.

Quoted directly from the Sigma Performance web site.

Ducati released its long awaited update for the 748SPS in late 1999 called the 748R. The bike featured the first production 'big airbox' design. The box is designed to give both a larger quantity of nice cold stopped air and a lower frequency pulse to assist the spread of the power band. New larger 54mm throttle bodies are inside the box and feature some very expensive 'shower' style injectors above the butterflies. There is no secondary injector. Just like the early years of the 748SP/SPS, a race prepared version, the 748RS was also released.

The main new parts on the 748R are a motor based on the 996; bigger, stronger, cases bigger port cylinder heads and larger valves. Designed to stand the 155hp of the 996 racers the cases were as strong as a rock. As mentioned above the other addition was the large airbox and a modified frame to get the new box in (the frame is the same as that homologated with the Foggy replica in 1998; on that occasion though you still had the old airbox design).

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94CobraR

· #18 · Oct 8, 2009

Let's see...Late 1999...that's a 2000 model, right laddy? And it says big airbox, which you claimed it didn't have until 2001 (oh sorry, late 2000).

Seriously...first you say to look in Ian's book, now this. You have major issues about admitting when you're wrong.

tye1138 said:
A bit puzzling, since somehow in the back of my mind I remember repeatedly someone telling me the first batch of 748R's didn't have showers.

Ohh and whatever book your getting the info from on the year is wrong:

Quoted directly from the Sigma Performance web site.

Ducati released its long awaited update for the 748SPS in late 1999 called the 748R. The bike featured the first production 'big airbox' design. The box is designed to give both a larger quantity of nice cold stopped air and a lower frequency pulse to assist the spread of the power band. New larger 54mm throttle bodies are inside the box and feature some very expensive 'shower' style injectors above the butterflies. There is no secondary injector. Just like the early years of the 748SP/SPS, a race prepared version, the 748RS was also released.

The main new parts on the 748R are a motor based on the 996; bigger, stronger, cases bigger port cylinder heads and larger valves. Designed to stand the 155hp of the 996 racers the cases were as strong as a rock. As mentioned above the other addition was the large airbox and a modified frame to get the new box in (the frame is the same as that homologated with the Foggy replica in 1998; on that occasion though you still had the old airbox design).

tye1138

· #19 · Oct 8, 2009

94CobraR said:
Seriously...first you say to look in Ian's book, now this. You have major issues about admitting when you're wrong.

I just don't think I am wrong... I've seen the service manuals w/o shower injectors using a 996 dual injection system and standard airbox in a bike with a 748R on the side of it.

Ya caught me with the Ohlins/Showa deal... just be happy with catchin' that mistake.

94CobraR

· #20 · Oct 8, 2009

tye1138 said:
I just don't think I am wrong... I've seen the service manuals w/o shower injectors using a 996 dual injection system and standard airbox in a bike with a 748R on the side of it.

Ya caught me with the Ohlins/Showa deal... just be happy with catchin' that mistake.

Whatever...

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