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for those interested got the 2011 ECU reflash with the service. apparently they only just got it and mine was the second to have it done. this is the Official 2011 spec ECU upgrade with ABS improvements. i will be sure to give it a test over the week.:D As for fueling, i was pretty happy with the unofficial upgrade last yr so time will tell whether i can notice any difference in performance/mileage.

As for Frasers themselves i am quite happy to report that the level of service was good ( i dont take my Harley there cause of poor service yrs ago , but im pretty happy with how they went about their business today and looked after me )
 

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i should add that there is one noticeable difference on the dash - it "warns" you that the red switch hasnt been put in the "off" position after you turn the motor off .
 

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for those interested got the 2011 ECU reflash with the service. apparently they only just got it and mine was the second to have it done. this is the Official 2011 spec ECU upgrade with ABS improvements. i will be sure to give it a test over the week.:D As for fueling, i was pretty happy with the unofficial upgrade last yr so time will tell whether i can notice any difference in performance/mileage. QUOTE]

Are you sure about the ABS upgrade? Do you know what they did to the ABS?
I have beed assured that there is no ABS upgrade by my dealer.

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for those interested got the 2011 ECU reflash with the service. apparently they only just got it and mine was the second to have it done. this is the Official 2011 spec ECU upgrade with ABS improvements. i will be sure to give it a test over the week.:D As for fueling, i was pretty happy with the unofficial upgrade last yr so time will tell whether i can notice any difference in performance/mileage. QUOTE]

Are you sure about the ABS upgrade? Do you know what they did to the ABS?
I have beed assured that there is no ABS upgrade by my dealer.

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pete , i was advised by the head of service at Frasers that the flash was the official 2011 spec and that it included an upgrade to ABS . he advised that NFI only rec'd it "days ago" . Cant say any more or less than what i was told. I did not go in there to get it done so it came as a surprise that when i picked up bike that is what i was advised. there is a change on dash so i know that there has been an upgrade... a few planned emergency stops when i get the chance may tell me whether the abs has improved .... the fact that NFI occupy the same building gives me some level of confidence that the head of service knows what he is talking about. I mentioned this to the Ducati sales guy on the way out and he also seemed to know about the 2011 spec upgrade. BTW He said that the latches for the panniers were due in next month. - a model on the floor had them on. The latches seemed to work quite well, and not nearly as bad as speculated months ago when first announced
 

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tested the improved ABS

imho the abs front wheel appears to cut in with less effort ( ie not as hard braking , but the abs is then more consistent in its on/off. Before , if the ABS did kick in under very hard braking, it almost gave the impression that the brake then "failed" for a brief moment. Overall , i would say that there has been an improvement through consistency of application of the abs and therefore better stopping distance. the rear tyre also appears to be doign a better job. Before ( again imo ) , once the abs kicked in , it stayed kicked in , and the rear provided no stopping power whatsoever. that has now changed.
 

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After reading that the 2011 ecu flash was finally available in Australia I had it done today at Frasers as well.
I have the full Termi system. I noticed that the bike didn't sputter, cough and backfire anywhere near as much. The power delivery is now superb. The bike didn't seem that it would stall on takeoff as it did this morning before the update.

Whilst I havent noticed that it warns you to put the red switch in the upright position on engine off (as has been written) I did notice that the fuel consumption now reads Litres per 100 Kilometres not the stupid and unheard on Kilometres per Litre that it used to be. (By the way, it was 6.1 lt per 100km in city cycle which I am very happy with).

The ignition, steering lock and power off now work immediately and without hesitation- one of my previous gripes.

I couldn't get the abs to activate in the dry- which is a good thing. It used to activate and extend the stopping distance excessively. Wet and slippery roads will show how good this update is for the ABS.

Whilst we dont have the pannier latches yet in Australia (one more week?) I looked at them on an '11 model in the showroom and I dont think that they are offensive in appearance.

Conclusion
- dont wait for a service to get this update. It makes a great bike with some stupid defects perfect.

-I now have more faith in Ducati- even if they are a little slow to fix problems.

Only ongoing gripes-

the centrestand should be designed even better than the '11 model and replaced on all MTS1200's (I've ordered an SW-Motech which is hopefully better designed
the rear brake still doesn't work (yes, I know its identical to the HM1100 that I have and that does work) and I don't know why.
 

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After reading that the 2011 ecu flash was finally available in Australia I had it done today at Frasers as well.
I have the full Termi system. I noticed that the bike didn't sputter, cough and backfire anywhere near as much. The power delivery is now superb. The bike didn't seem that it would stall on takeoff as it did this morning before the update.

Whilst I havent noticed that it warns you to put the red switch in the upright position on engine off (as has been written) I did notice that the fuel consumption now reads Litres per 100 Kilometres not the stupid and unheard on Kilometres per Litre that it used to be. (By the way, it was 6.1 lt per 100km in city cycle which I am very happy with).

The ignition, steering lock and power off now work immediately and without hesitation- one of my previous gripes.

I couldn't get the abs to activate in the dry- which is a good thing. It used to activate and extend the stopping distance excessively. Wet and slippery roads will show how good this update is for the ABS.

Whilst we dont have the pannier latches yet in Australia (one more week?) I looked at them on an '11 model in the showroom and I dont think that they are offensive in appearance.

Conclusion
- dont wait for a service to get this update. It makes a great bike with some stupid defects perfect.

-I now have more faith in Ducati- even if they are a little slow to fix problems.

Only ongoing gripes-

the centrestand should be designed even better than the '11 model and replaced on all MTS1200's (I've ordered an SW-Motech which is hopefully better designed
the rear brake still doesn't work (yes, I know its identical to the HM1100 that I have and that does work) and I don't know why.
Hi, I also had the update done yesterday & agree completely with what you say (mine is a Touring with full termi system). Much nicer bike. I confirmed that it included an ecu firmware update.
"Whilst I havent noticed that it warns you to put the red switch in the upright position on engine off (as has been written)" You require a new RHS switch, like mine does. If you can get the switch in a certain position, it will show the message, my mechanic showed me how the switch was intermittent & has ordered the updated switch.
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QUOTE: After reading that the 2011 ecu flash was finally available in Australia I had it done today at Frasers as well. **

Did you call in or book in and get the update done?
Did you receive a letter in the mail from Ducati re having the update installed?
Was it done when you had a sevice done?
I was told by Frasers Service Dept. I need to wait for Ducati to send me a letter to get the update done. This is apparently so Frasers can claim the update on warranty.
 

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QUOTE: After reading that the 2011 ecu flash was finally available in Australia I had it done today at Frasers as well. **

Did you call in or book in and get the update done?
Did you receive a letter in the mail from Ducati re having the update installed?
Was it done when you had a sevice done?
I was told by Frasers Service Dept. I need to wait for Ducati to send me a letter to get the update done. This is apparently so Frasers can claim the update on warranty.


ummmm nope ... the guys said they did it when i got bike back from service
 

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I had some stuff done to my bike yesterday and whilst it was there they applied (according to the service guy) 4 different ECU updates: Engine ECU, ABS, DTC, and Dash. Haven't ridden much since, but did notice the following:

The bike feels smoother on overrun. The dash displays fuel consumption in L/100km instead of km/L. Wasn't able to test ABS or DTC. I like km/L so I hope there's a way to switch it back - perhaps the same menu where you select units? After all, nobody uses "gallons per hundred miles" :think:

I looked for the "switch still down" warning but couldn't make it happen.

By the way, they checked my brakes as I wasn't happy with the "pulsating" feeling I spoke about in a previous post, and they found my discs were warped (slightly). They are going to replace my discs and pads under warranty :)

They found air in my rear brake line and bled it out. Result: the rear brake is now what I would consider satisfactory. A vast improvement. All in all, a good service!
 

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I did notice that the fuel consumption now reads Litres per 100 Kilometres not the stupid and unheard on Kilometres per Litre that it used to be. (By the way, it was 6.1 lt per 100km in city cycle which I am very happy with).
In this part of the world we use km's per litre for as long as I live, which is more than 55 years, so I don't think this is stupid and unheard off ....
I would for sure be disappointed if Ducati swaps the distance per unit of fuel into amount of fuel per 100 distance. I like mpg or km/ltr and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

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In this part of the world we use km's per litre for as long as I live, which is more than 55 years, so I don't think this is stupid and unheard off ....
I would for sure be disappointed if Ducati swaps the distance per unit of fuel into amount of fuel per 100 distance. I like mpg or km/ltr and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

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+1 see my previous post :)
 

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In this part of the world we use km's per litre for as long as I live, which is more than 55 years, so I don't think this is stupid and unheard off ....
I would for sure be disappointed if Ducati swaps the distance per unit of fuel into amount of fuel per 100 distance. I like mpg or km/ltr and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

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All of our quoted fuel consumption in the part of the world is litres per 100km. The trip computers on all the cars I have had use this system as does BMW for its bikes and now Ducati also agree.

I guess you and not I will now be the one that finds it difficult to relate to the changed consumption calculation.

Australia was always miles per gallon until the metric system was adopted and then litres per 100km was adopted. I thought that this was standard for metric?
 

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QUOTE: After reading that the 2011 ecu flash was finally available in Australia I had it done today at Frasers as well. **

Did you call in or book in and get the update done?
Did you receive a letter in the mail from Ducati re having the update installed?
Was it done when you had a sevice done?
I was told by Frasers Service Dept. I need to wait for Ducati to send me a letter to get the update done. This is apparently so Frasers can claim the update on warranty.
Peter,

I had previously complained of the issues that are fixed in this update and was told that they would call when it was ready (they didnt). I guess they dont want hundreds of bikes turning up at the same time.

A call to book it in should suffice- about one hours time in the shop.
 

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Peter,

I had previously complained of the issues that are fixed in this update and was told that they would call when it was ready (they didnt). I guess they dont want hundreds of bikes turning up at the same time.

A call to book it in should suffice- about one hours time in the shop.
Thanks for your feedback.
 

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All of our quoted fuel consumption in the part of the world is litres per 100km. The trip computers on all the cars I have had use this system as does BMW for its bikes and now Ducati also agree.

I guess you and not I will now be the one that finds it difficult to relate to the changed consumption calculation.

Australia was always miles per gallon until the metric system was adopted and then litres per 100km was adopted. I thought that this was standard for metric?
It's personal preference, I guess - I wonder who decided to invert it? Same thing happened with cricket: "3 for 100" became "100 for 3" a while back. Miles per gallon makes a lot of sense: I have 10 gallons of fuel, and my car gets 30 miles per gallon; that's 300 miles. Easy. When my car/bike tells me I'm getting 6 litres per hundred kms and I have 20 litres of fuel, I thank christ I have a distance to empty readout ;-) The truth is it all came from some marketing types: "People want to know how much/little they are consuming". Let's dumb it all down so thay can make sense of the "3 1/2 star" fuel consumption rating on the windshield.

They all assume we're too stupid to realise that a big number in miles per gallon or kilometres per litre means lower consumption. It's like when something big happens on the news they can't just say "it covered 20 square kilometres"... they have to say "it was as big as 1000 football fields" (or whatever the current conversion rate is on football fields ;-) )

Luckily, I can do the maths in my head, so it doesn't really matter. But it would be nice to have the choice somewhere in a menu!

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i should add that there is one noticeable difference on the dash - it "warns" you that the red switch hasnt been put in the "off" position after you turn the motor off .
I noticed this for a split second this afternoon while I was turning on the dash just to check the trip meter, but was never able to make it show the warning again. Doesn't seem to matter what I do. So I know it's hiding there somewhere, but doesn't seem to want to play ball.
 

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..."Whilst I havent noticed that it warns you to put the red switch in the upright position on engine off (as has been written)" You require a new RHS switch, like mine does. If you can get the switch in a certain position, it will show the message, my mechanic showed me how the switch was intermittent & has ordered the updated switch.
Cheers,
Apart from the missing warning, my red switch seems to work quite well. I wonder how I am going to convince my mechanic that I need it replaced under warranty?
 

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I noticed this for a split second this afternoon while I was turning on the dash just to check the trip meter, but was never able to make it show the warning again. Doesn't seem to matter what I do. So I know it's hiding there somewhere, but doesn't seem to want to play ball.
yeah .... it doesnt warn me everytime .... probably 6-7 times outta 10 ;) i thought i read somewhere that perhaps dirt in the switch could interfere with its functionality
 
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